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| JackInKC (65.26.0.37) Rating: |
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get square headlights for my 84 Prevost? The existing round factory lights consist of a painted plastic assembly that wraps around a hole cut in the skin at the corner of the bus. It seem like there should be a salvage, after market or substitute square headlight that would fit in the same hole. If the new headlight was designed for a flat surface or less curve maybe a small flange could be built to cover the exposed side of the assembly. Silly me, I called Prevost and inquired; they will sell me the body parts only for $4,573.86. Any suggestions? Thanks, Jack | ||
| TWO DOGS (63.185.80.230) Rating: N/A |
go walk around a car junkyard...look at Cadillac etc...... | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary) (209.128.79.46)
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I don't know nuttin 'bout no Pre-Vosts, but my bluebird has the same headlight assemblies as a firetruck. I'm thinking about updating to square myself, and the same assemblies are available for newer fire trucks. I'm going to check with the sources for fire apparatus lighting systems for my headlight assemblies. Hope this is helpful, Gary | ||
| WA David (Wacoastmci) (148.64.136.193)
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MCI 102D has square headlights. Find one in a wrecking yard as MCI-new parts are priced like Prevost. They are 12V. | ||
| Jim Ashworth (Jimnh) (172.167.49.47)
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I have seen this done with the Prevost square headlights. Only problem is that the center connecting trim is made for 102" wide (when they introduced square headlights) and will not fit and can't be trimmed nicely to fit. You probably will need to get the corner sheet metal and possibly weld in new (or cut out and move the old) reinforcing steel tubing. I just happen to have updated my square ones to the new single style and have the old ones in the shop if you can figure out how to make this work. Jim | ||
| Rayshound (64.12.116.135)
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Still a little pricey but I purchased the curved s.s. front corners & the square headlights as a kit from IBp for I believe was $595. They also sold just the lights without the front corners but I don't recall there price. Ray | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary) (68.250.2.76)
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I don't thing these are the exact ones I was thinking of, but they're close http://www.rustrepair.com/app2/onlinecat.htm?r=wi&p=wi-hood-sb.lamp Looks like $105.90 per side for complete assy. I'm still lookin' gary | ||
| RJ Long (Rjlong) (67.181.236.27)
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OK, I'm going to climb up on my headlight soapbox here, because I firmly believe this is an important SAFETY issue: BEFORE you spend a whole bunch of money to modify the front end of your coach to accept rectangular headlamps, might I suggest investing (yes, that's the correct word, IMHO, for this issue) in a good set of Cibie, Marchal or Hella brand "European-code" halogen lights, and then spend a lot of time driving with them at night. You'll be amazed at what you'll be able to see - without "overdriving" your headlights. . . which is about 45 mph on low beams, btw!! There is a HUGE differece in the lighting pattern between the US-spec and E-code lamps. US lamps have poor optics, resulting in weird "hot spots" and tremendous glare, as we all are aware. E-code lamps have a very distinct cut-off to the left, virtually eliminating glare to oncoming traffic, and a sharp rise to the right, throwing light a LONG way down the road. When properly aimed (which is very easy to do), E-code lights will brightly illuminate a stop sign on a level road nearly 1/4 mile away on low beam, and you'll be able to see that same stop sign nearly 3/4 of a mile away easily on high beam, all with the same halogen bulbs as the US lamps use!!! It's all in the superior optics of the lens and reflector of the E-code lamps. www.cibieusa.com is the link to Cibie's US distributor, and the lamps are available for both two and four-lamp systems. They're not cheap, folks, approximately $250 for the four-lamp set, but then again, what price SAFETY? Oh, and the bulbs are available in 24V, too!! I'll climb down off my soapbox now. . .  HTH, RJ PD4106-2784 Fresno CA PS: And if you really want a great back-up light, check out Cibie's "Super Oscar"!! | ||
| Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary) (68.250.2.76)
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Look up HID lighting kits while you're there. Gary | ||
| Bill K. (209.86.77.30) Rating: N/A |
Try your Freightliner garage, most of the Freightliners have the same light, this is what I put in my mc8. | ||
| John that newguy (199.232.244.141) Rating: N/A |
A quick note for the round lamp die-hards, like me: Check out the aircraft landing lights. | ||
| Johnny (4.174.103.17) Rating: N/A |
A quick note for RJ: in many states (including mine) those Euro lights ARE NOT STREET LEGAL. I use Sylvania high-output halogen sealed-beams from Wal-Mart, & have no complaints. | ||
| RJ Long (Rjlong) (67.181.236.27)
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Johnny - I'm aware of that. . . but have been using them for nearly 40 years, and have never been stopped because of my headlights. OTOH, my son decided to put those "blue-white" bulbs in the stock headlights of his 4Runner, and was promptly stopped the first nite. Go Figure. . . RJ | ||
| Derek (Derek_L) (24.83.196.239)
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The "blue" headlights are the biggest marketing scam I've ever seen in my life... And I've seen those "As Seen On TV" stores. All they do is put a blue *tint* on a regular halogen bulb, and up the output wattage. What this produces is a poorer quality light, and worse glare for oncoming drivers. I am with RJ; legal or not, the Cibie/Hella (Never used Marchel myself) are the way to go, for anyone who drives at night any more than a couple minutes. Either that, or as Gary mentioned, Xenon discharge HID... I've seen them on a new Prevost H3-45, it does wonders for road lighting at night... Style, too... | ||
| Phil (24.195.252.5) Rating: N/A |
Try the Sylvania Silver Stars. They do not have the beam control of the e-lights or the brightness of the HID but are a good, reasonably priced option. As far as aircraft landing lights, as a pilot and airplane owner, their life expectancy is poor even on the limited time use in an airplane and the beam is not the best for street use. The newer halogens seem to hold up better but they were not designed for the same purpose ae headlights. | ||
| Johnny (4.174.106.124) Rating: N/A |
RJ: That's an automatic inspection failure here, and I think the car/truck/bus CAN be impounded. | ||
| Johnny (4.174.106.124) Rating: N/A |
If you drive a lot on unlit roads, I suggest some high-intensity auxiliary lighting. My wife's Grand national has a pair of pencil-beam driving lights (I think HID) which are much brighter than the Euros & 100% legal. | ||
| pete (205.188.116.135)
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Jack.. i was thinnin the same thing about the lights..im an old chevy truck man..if you look on a mid 90's blazer,pu or suburban the square lights are about the right size for the front of a bus and the mounting. the rad support on those trucks and the grill design is flat..any later and they have a rounding to them and youd have to make a bezzel for them. im looking to do the same thing with ,y scenicruiser pete | ||
| JackInKC (65.26.0.37) Rating: N/A |
Thanks for the great advice & comments. I forgot about IBP because they don’t carry a very full line of provost parts. Steve at IBP will sell me both square headlight assembles (four lamp system) for $526. The lamps are side by side whereas Prevost set the outside lamp back a little bit. A little cutting and grinding is required. Adding the center connecting grill is optional for my 84 model. I am looking at IBP’s replacement tail lights too. Any comments or experiences will be appreciated. Thanks again. Jack Gregg | ||
| Jim-Bob (12.46.52.74) Rating: N/A |
Johnny, you gotta move to Florida. There is no inspection here for non commercial vehicles. Anything goes! | ||
| Johnny (4.174.109.165) Rating: N/A |
Until you get pulled over by a cop who got to Krispy Kreme 2 minutes after they closed & he decides those lights "don't look right". | ||
| LABryan (67.114.251.32)
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Jack, if you are going through all the trouble to update your lights, you should really consider changing to the two square headlight setup instead of the four rectangular lights. You will really update the look of your bus by doing so. Prior owner changed front and rear lights on my '90 Prevost and it is now indistinguishable from a '95. In fact, Prevost used the same lighting setup through at least '98 and similar through present on the Le Mirage. You may face problems with the 102/96 wide issue as noted by JimNH, but if you can make them fit, both front and rear, your bus will look SWEET. Regarding safety, if you have the cut-outs in your bumper to accommodate fog or driving lights, I highly recommend a set of Hellas, separately switched. My white Hellas far outperform my headlights, even with the high output Sylvania halogen bulbs. Bryan | ||
| Phil Lyons (66.80.141.2) Rating: N/A |
Doesn't R&M Fiberglass sell several modernization type kits? And, I don't think you have to buy the whole front end. At least when I was inquiring, you could buy just the pieces you were interested in. Prices didn't seem too bad for what I was doing at the time. YMMV Hope this helps, Phil |
