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Luis (Sundancer)

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Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 1:03 pm:   

Is 1/2 inch copper the thing to use for diesel generator fuel lines?
TWODOGS (Twodogs)

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Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 1:09 pm:   

no....hyd. hose is better
Randall Hays (Bulldogie)

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Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 2:55 pm:   

Luis, if you have a bus, look at what they used, MCI uses Copper. Gee I wonder why, cheaper? won't be eaten up by any Diesel or the components put into it? To each his own, I used copper.
jimmci9 #2

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Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 4:06 pm:   

copper will dissapate heat....rubber won't.... heat causes condensation... copper is the better choice....
Marc Bourget

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Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 5:26 pm:   

Copper has to be installed and supported correctly as it work hardens which makes it prone to cracking.

Not saying don't use it, saying use it correctly!

Onward and Upward

Marc Bourget
Jayrjay

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Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 9:53 pm:   

I used 3/8" I.D. braided rubber fuel hose from NAPA with press-on brass fittings, that have a clamp applied after they are pushed on. About 10 feet of hose to the genset, and same for the return line. Ty-Wraps to keep them properly supported and neat. Very tough, and difficult to damage by impact or abrasion. I took a pair of pliers and a hammer to a piece to test it before I decided to use it. Lot's easier than copper to install, and about the same cost. Cheers...JJ
Luis (Sundancer)

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Posted on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 9:46 am:   

Thanks for the input. I've actually seen both used, copper and braided rubber tubing, just picking brains out there to see why one would be favored over the other.
TWODOGS (Twodogs)

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Posted on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 9:58 am:   

copper breaks...works on buses that never travel
jim wilke (Pd41044039)

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Posted on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 3:13 pm:   

Don't know about that Two Dogs. The 4104 was made with what seems to be miles of copper tubing. Water, air, fuel. Lasted 50 years & looks like it'll last another. I am certain that if rubber had been used, the buses would have been in the junkyard decades ago. The braided rubber in the engine area has been replaced at least twice on my 4104.
But I'll buy that IMPROPERLY APPLIED copper will break. You definitely need rubber sections at any place that sees movement.

Jim-Bob
Tim Jones (Torquester)

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Posted on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 10:27 pm:   

FWIW, Freightliner, and International are using Parflex (air brake plastic tubing) on their bus chassis. Seems like a great idea to me.

hth, Tq
Bob Oakman (Bobsbus)

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Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2004 - 1:09 am:   

Isn't Parflex a good thing to use for your water lines as well? My father-in-law had a trucking company and that's what he suggested. He said they won't break if they freeze.
Kyle Brandt (Kyle4501)

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Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2004 - 8:11 am:   

I would be careful in using copper as ther are many types and alloys available. Make SURE you have the correct type for your application. I'm sure GMC didn't get theirs from a local plumbing supply house.
My old IHC truck manual refered to 'double walled copper' as the only acceptable tubing to use for the air and fuel system. The Parflex is much easier to install and service tho.
As far as Parflex goes, if it's not rated for drinking water use, it may add flavor to your drink.

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