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TWODOGS (Twodogs)

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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 9:16 pm:   

how much would the average person weigh ?? if you say....150...then the bus was made to haul 7000 pounds of people ...and say the average passenger had a 40 pound suitcase..that would be 1880 pounds...that's 8800 pounds...since I removed 2000 pounds of seats & added 2000 pounds of ref.,shower,divans,t.v. sinks, food,etc....really...she has alot easier life...

just thinking
Busone

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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 9:30 pm:   

Just did an internet search for the average American weight. The average male is 190# and the average female is 150#. So indeed our buses have life much easier.
Lin

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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 9:34 pm:   

I do not believe that statistic. Especially the one about women. The average weight of the women I know is far less than 150 pounds. I am not sure I want to live in a place where that would be true.
TWODOGS (Twodogs)

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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 9:40 pm:   

tatoo lin...I think your women have been telling you stories
busone

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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 9:41 pm:   

I am not making any guarantee to accuracy it is just the first one that I saw. Either way our buses probably have life a little better after we get them.
Van2001ko

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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 9:58 pm:   

In the New Flyer D40LF bus manual has a avg male weighting 180 pounds and female weighting roughly 150.

:-)

Good Day
Stephen Fessenden (Sffess)

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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 10:15 pm:   

For flying the standard weight of a passenger is 170 lbs. Must be close because it is used for critical weight and balance calculations.
TWODOGS (Twodogs)

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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 10:21 pm:   

at 170 =9600 pounds...that's almost 10,000 pounds she is NOT hauling...........

wonder if the bus drivers can tell the difference between an empty bus & a full one..
Johnny

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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 11:07 pm:   

According to the stickers on a couple of Glaval cutaways at work, the wieght is figured for 150lbs per seated passenger, 200lbs for a wheelchair passenger, 10lbs luggage if the bus has inside racks, & 25lbs if it has a baggage compartment.
Jim Stewart (H3jim)

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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 11:25 pm:   

2 Dogs -I just added 2000 lbs to my bus, and all I could tell was it rode a little better - not so twichy. Could not tell any difference in the big hills.
Derek (Derek_l)

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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 11:28 pm:   

A *safe* calculation, would be 200lb average... 250, if you wanted to... 170 is pretty *normalish*, and according to the health people, many people are *over normal*.

Now, 58*200 = 11,600lbs.

Each person carrying one (1) bag, weighing 40lb (Easily, for any driver doing current inbound tours will tell you..) is another 2380lb of luggage...

13920 lbs as an upper limit on a 45' bus... Not bad load capacity...
BrianMCI

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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 11:58 pm:   

Lets not forget that the hound also hauls freight in the bays...and I have to believe that the seats and overhead bins together are at least 50 pounds per seat, so closer to 2500lbs than 2000.

Easier life indeed!

Brian
ChuckMC9 (Chucks)

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Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 12:36 am:   

Lin - Two Dogs wants phone numbers of all the women you know. If they're blonde.
Kevin Allen, Nebus (91flyer)

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Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 12:37 am:   

Here's one for ya... My new 60 footer has SEATING for 69 people, and standing room for about 40 more.... THAT'S a lot of human flesh to move around! :-)

-Kevin
MCI Larry (Eurof3)

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Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 12:44 am:   

Oh yes we think a driver can tell the difference in a full bus.
Last year I went to New York to get a car we had bought on ebay. I got to ride a newer MCI to the train station and it was full of folks. I sat behind the driver, well you know why. I was playing 10 questions with the driver, he wanted to talk.
When he went to pass a car, I could feel the weight of bus make a sway out into the passing lane. A different feeling than I was used to. My question to the driver was, ya think we might have a low tire? His answer to me was, "Oh no we are just running full of passengers". Gotta believe that meant it must handle different empty.

I learned a ton form setting behind that driver on the 50 mile bus ride. What a great guy, a retired bus driver. But when the bus line got busy they would call and have him drive on occasion with local runs. He also was coaching at a school. Sounded like he missed being behind the wheel of what we all enjoy, Busin.
I talked buses and he wanted to talk my ebay. Man we got along. Sorry to rattle on.
So I think we took 3500 lbs out of our coach total. With all the Dutchman trailer interior and what we added back in. I am about even again. I fell like I am running empty.

BUT my eye is on that 12K liquid diesel generator. That will add some weight.
You all have good math. Most of us are not running fully loaded anymore and our coach has an easier life. Speaking of loaded, Beer time
Later: Larry
Ian Giffin (Admin)

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Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 8:44 am:   

Yeah,like,

I've sat on the beach in Florida where most of those "average" American women who think they weigh 150 lbs go by in their thong bikinis.

Think Two Dogs in a Speedo.

Uck-a.

Ian
www.busnut.com
TWODOGS (Twodogs)

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Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 9:44 am:   

Thanks alot I@N
Ian Giffin (Admin)

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Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 10:31 am:   

Ooops!

Sorry, Two Dogs.

Ok, think Two Dogs in a thong, not a Speedo.

Ian
www.busnut.com
Derek (Derek_l)

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Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 10:52 am:   

Uck-a indeed... And your second choice is worse...

TWO DOGS, $50 to keep pants over your thong at all times whilst in view of the public...
ChuckMC9 (Chucks)

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Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 10:59 am:   

Screaming
TWODOGS (Twodogs)

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Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 11:16 am:   

I guess it's the day to pick on TWO DOGS...


POOR ME :-( :-(
Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)

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Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 11:39 am:   

TD--Never overlook an opportunity.

$50 X ? = a whoppin' load of cash.


Gary
TWODOGS (Twodogs)

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Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 11:43 am:   

o.k.....for 50.00 each....I won't moon you guys
Robert Wood (Bobwoodsocal)

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Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 12:46 pm:   

OH CRAP- I"M BROKE RIGHT NOW... SOMEONE LEND ME $50 QUICK!!! Sorry 2D, couldn't resist!
TWODOGS (Twodogs)

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Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 12:48 pm:   

that's fine Bob...just everybody send the 50 to I@N ,he is head of the fund drive...Bob...sell something.......or else
Robert Wood (Bobwoodsocal)

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Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 1:02 pm:   

HEHEHEHE! Good fun. Bob
Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)

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Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 1:30 pm:   

Check is in the mail.
TWODOGS (Twodogs)

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Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 1:45 pm:   

DAMN....I was hopeing you wouldn't pay Gary
Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)

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Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 1:53 pm:   

Give me a rest TD, I'm just recovering from the fact that we have the same political views....


Gary
TWODOGS (Twodogs)

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Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 1:58 pm:   

.......... :-)
Darryl (Darryl)

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Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 9:45 pm:   

Just for the record, you can definitely tell the difference between a full bus and an empty one. I drove for Trailways for several years. You can really tell it when stopping and doing things like changing lanes.

There was also one time we picked up a load of soldiers to take them to the airport. All big guys and the bays were completely full of footlockers with gear. We had to start off on a slight incline. It took about 20 seconds for the engine to get enough rpm for the turbo to kick in. Boy, that was a heavy load. The bottom of the step well was only a few inches from the gound. I've never seen one that low since.
TWODOGS (Twodogs)

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Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 9:55 pm:   

thats what my bus is ex-trailways....yeah...I was hopeing a driver would speak up...I sure wouldn't want to do that for a living...all the time I drove a big truck...did not allow anybody rideing with me...
Mike (Busone)

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Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 11:20 pm:   

Not even your girlfriends could ride with you TD?
Bob Oakman (Bobsbus)

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Posted on Friday, November 12, 2004 - 12:01 am:   

When we moved away from Houston, the interior of my bus was fully stripped. We packed the bays and the entire bus as tight as we could, to save on some moving company cost. We have a lot of stuff. I weighed the bus before and after. She was carrying 10,000 pounds before Wife, son, self, 4 dogs and cat got scrunched into the front 4 feet of the cabin.

There was a big difference in the way it felt. Surprisingly, acceleration wasn't that much different, but breaking required several more feet than I was used to. When we emptied it out it felt like driving a go cart in comparison.

On the swim wear topic, there really are some ladies who just don't belong in a butt-floss bikini and some men that have no business in a speedo. Yet they persist. It is why I spend less time on the beach than I would like to. :P
Marc Bourget

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Posted on Friday, November 12, 2004 - 10:32 am:   

Suet-0-phobia, Huh? You shure ain't politikally Kerrect!

Meaner and leaner!

Marc Bourget
Buswarrior (Buswarrior)

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Posted on Friday, November 12, 2004 - 11:07 pm:   

Hello all.

As noted earlier, you know about the load when stopping or changing lanes. The get up and go is a little slower.

Difference is enough that most of us may have developed just a hint of bad habit that might bite us if we were to load our buses to "wartime loading" and go for a boot.

happy coaching!
buswarrior

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