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| vern rainville
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Reflecting on past obsevations in the home remodeling field, single pane glass is about zip when it comes to insulation. However, most home replacement window companies sell double pane windows. From obsevation and use, they are better insulation (and noisewise). Some companies even sell triple pane windows claiming even better insulation. I believe that is probably a true statement, although not worth double the money. With that said, this past weekend as I needed some insulation for my bus, I inadvertantly discovered the Dow 1/2"styrofoam brand would flex greatly, as I loaded it into my 4runner. This gave me new thoughts for the roof insulation. So here goes some possible scenario's. 1. I will use the Radiant shied insulation/ barrier (regardless, my choice) 2. Next I can cut the 1/2" insulation and install (flex) it into the roof section . 3. Next I can then cut the 1/2" insulation into 1" strips and install a perimeter boarder in the roof curves.(this will give me 1/2" airspace) 4. And lastly repeat #2. This all adds up to 1 1/2" plus the radiant shield to fill the roughly 1 9/16" bus frame tubing. Another similar scenerio: I could use 1/4" insulation creating 2 seperate air spaces, still using the 1/2" (solid) and still equalling 1 1/2". Or, am I just overthinking this whole idea and use 1 1/2" polyiscyanurate foil face and fill the whole damn void? Vern (in RI) | ||
| TWODOGS (Twodogs)
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I say fill her up.... | ||
| dug Rating: N/A |
Here is an interesting read on radiant shield insulation. It is from 1991, so some things may have changed, but I found it interesting. (It is also a long read, but worth it  ) Part 1 http://www.rci-mercury.com/files/821852.pdf Part 2 http://www.rci-mercury.com/files/821853.pdf HTH, dug 75 MC8 | ||
| MCI Larry (Eurof3)
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I liked what my by busnut friend did. Had a professional foam crew come in and foam it. His bus got tight from the foam and really quiet no travel squeaks, nothing to rub together or get loose. SWEET It was $750 to get the ceiling alone foamed. Last April on the way to Florida. At the rest area just entering Tennessee on 75 before you go up the big hill. Sat this awesome, mirror shinny skinned, beautiful black, alcoa wheeled Prevost. Yes, I walked right over there. Yes, WOW! Guy was havin a smoke outside the coach. So I said, nice coach, yours? He said, No just delivering an empty shell to a builder. I made small talk with him. Told him about my MCI 96A3 and that I was retired at 44. Then I asked to take a peek inside? It had a clear plastic wall behind the driver area. I found a place along the bottom to peek inside. It was foamed inside. Very white type foam. It looked very smooth almost like it had a form placed on the wall poured full and the form removed. Never seen such a smooth finish job with foam. Made the rest of the drive south a coach dream building drive ! I could not see any radiant shield and I am not sure what my buddy used, if any. Oh well had to share some kind of story tonight. I`m with ole Tex / Speedo boy ! filler up. Man its 23 degrees outside. I am headed out and turn the furncae on in the coach tonite. Because we are off to Deer camp with the coach this week-end and need water. I am not yet winterized. I sure don`t need a frozen water system. Where is my electric blanket ? Nite all. Larry | ||
| Marc Bourget Rating: N/A |
I was told Prevost has chassis jigs and casts the foam to fit particular spots, kinda "insulation by the numbers" Less work to shape and clean up. Check Gumpydog's approach www.gumpydog.com/bus Onward and upward Marc Bourget | ||
| FAST FRED Rating: N/A |
Before installing ANy insulation in a coach , I sugest you take a hunk and put it in a bucket of water with a brick to hold it down. Check it after a day or so to see if it got ANY heavier. If its heavier its open cell foam and will not work well in a coach. Since there is no way to make the foam air tight in a coach open cell foam will absorbe water (brearthing , cooking , or a cheapo death heater) and gradually loose its insulation ability. A match to see how fast/big it burns might be a worth FAST FREDwhile test too. House doubble glass windows are made in a big factory , to standards that allow the space between the glass panes to be filled with argon , or a low conductivity gas. The Bus/ RV windows have no such filling so instead of an R of 3/4 two layers of glass get you all the way to R 1 1/2, at $500 each!! They do block sone extra noise , but if you want to stay warm or cool , get warmshades at about R 7. FAST FRED | ||
| H3 (Ace)
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Speaking of Prevost, I just ordered and received with free shipping from Prevost, a new driver side side glass. I was amazed at the way Prevost packed the glass. It came in an ordinary cardboard box. In the box I found the glass to be wrapped in bubble wrap and that package was inserted in the box and then spray foamed completely IN the box. I had more trouble getting the glass out of the box than one could imagine! Needless to say the box was good for nothing after having to be flattened out. Just thought I would share my glass shipping experience from Prevost with you all! Now the fun part of taking out the old and installing the new! Ace | ||
| R.C.Bishop
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It's mostly about the glass......how much, etc. Don't be decieved! FF is xactly right. RCB | ||
| Buswarrior (Buswarrior)
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Right on, Ace! MCI delivers glass the same way. Put it in the box, and then spray a can of foam in to tighten it up. Great idea for shipping all sorts of fragile things! Up here, in the frozen north, I'll tell you, an MC9 with single pane glass cannot stay warm inside, at highway speeds, when it is down closing on zero farenheit. One with stock double panes can. Nothing stays warm sitting still without a Webasto at that temperature. Zero to 70 with the heater proves way more about insulation than 110 to 70 with the AC in Death Valley. I'll be happy to help with your insulation tests up here where men keep their privates covered for a reason besides polite modesty! happy coaching! buswarrior | ||
| H3 (Ace)
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BW they didn't use just a can of spray foam. They actuallyused the same stuff they insulate the coaches with and a lot of it! The cardboard box was even bulgeing when I received it! Ace | ||
| Buswarrior (Buswarrior)
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that is good economics. Just spray what is around. Cheaper than having two kinds of foam. Ace, be sure we meet up in Arcadia this year, we need to hang out! happy coaching! buswarrior |