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jjrsmp12

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Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 1:13 pm:   

I have a few steel tubes on my Eagle frame in the wheel well which have rusted through on one side. There is literally no way to cut the tube out and put a new one in, and I cannot get Por-15 to those inside areas. If I use expanding foam to fill the entire tube, will this stop the rust since it has no moisture? Thanks
Ken Turner (Pipesusmc)

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Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 1:48 pm:   

A bus supported by spray foam might be ok, just dont turn any corners
Greg Roberts (Gregeagle20)

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Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 2:09 pm:   

If I am understanding you correctly, you are speaking of the non-structural tubes around the wheel well. The foam may help seal the area and slow the rusting but I would not count on this stopping the rust. To do that you will want to seal the area by a chemical conversion using something such as the por-15 that you mentioned.

My question is what exactly keeps you from being able to replace the tubes?
Bob Oakman (Bobsbus)

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Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 5:44 pm:   

Eagle... Rust?!? Nooo! :-)

I replaced as many rusted square tubes as I could after we stripped the skin on my Eagle. There were, however, some that were just to big of a pain to get at. They didn't play a real important role in structural integrity. My wife called Dave Galey, who was aware that we packed the old girl with 10,000 ponds of crap when we moved, and asked him if we should worry about it. His reply made sense. He said, "if it didn't break with that much weight in it, it probably won't break while you're still alive". Ad to that the 3/4 inch plywood skinning the inside and the extra bracing where the old windows were and I think it'll be OK.

It is important to stop the rust from proceeding where it wills, but I question the need to replace *every* last part with rust damage. Just my uneducated $0.02...
jjrsmp12

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Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 6:26 pm:   

Actually I was planning on welding extra steel for reinforcement. I can probably spray rustoleum or something else for the inside of the tube. But the por-15 probably will be too thick to spray.
neomax

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Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 8:28 pm:   

If nothing else, use something like Rust Mort or one of the other Phosphoric Acid based rust treatment products, which are thin and can be sprayed with a spray bottle. I have used Rust Mort often and have found it very effective with treating and stopping rust. They make a solution that does not require primer paint after application. take care not to get it on surfaces that you want untouched, such as aluminum skin or aluminum wheels.
Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)

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Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 8:40 pm:   

I remember from a friend that you can thin por15 for spray...wait...he did it in my shop on some '41 military ambulance parts. stuff looked powder-coated when he was done.

I would dig out the bad steel and replace it.


Gary
John Rigbyj

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Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 8:55 pm:   

Hameright, originally from the UK ( were you really have rust problems on that damp island in the middle of the north sea )It comes in spray can and brush on cans. When applied it turns the rust into a hard steel coat. It also comes in several colors,
John
Jim Ashworth (Jimnh)

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Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 10:38 pm:   

POR-15 can easily be sprayed right from the can without any thinning. Just cover everything you can. What you miss will still rust. Great stuff

Jim
HondoJoe04

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Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 11:04 pm:   

John,
The results I get with HAMMERITE is great.
Over rust & wherever I want some detail.
Leaves a nice "hammered" metal finish.
Many colors yes, but I mostly use the Aluminum color on my 4104 detail work. I love it. Quick, easy & looks great. Have had it on various problem areas for a number of years & still nice! Joe

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