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noopdoggy
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2004 - 11:12 am: | |
I bought one of the nc piedmont 4905a's from easters bus sales in virgina, I got a temp plate, a va inspection, and temp reg...8 weeks later I don't know if I am supose to get a title from, va, or nc, or nothing till I try to register in florida???Can anyone please enlighten me as to what is suppose to happen when buying a bus from a dealer and taking it to another state...please don't advise unless you really know..I have had too many 3rd hand info's...has anyone else bought a bus like this and then need to reg as rv? Thanks, Linda |
Frank Allen
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2004 - 11:23 am: | |
Register and apply for a title in your home state, take seats out and apply for rv title if you plan to convert. if they want to look at it you may have to put some rv goodies in it temp, i have no way to know what you will have to do in your state to qualifiy for rv , i had to do nothing in north carolina then south carolina , and finally Texas. Thats all i know about it
Frank Allen
4106 |
Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2004 - 11:27 am: | |
You have to find out in your state.
I bought miine in CA, stripped out all the seats, drove to Oregon, and titled it as a HouseCar.
Not all states are so easy.
Gary |
captain ron
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2004 - 1:36 pm: | |
I am from fl. you need to get the title from the person you purchased the bus from and then register it in fl. you will have to take it to the tax collecters ofice and they will check serial # or give you a paper and a sheriff can look at # and sign the paper. if youplan on registering it as a motor mome you need to remove most seats and have toilet sink and stove in it. they do not need to be working. |
noopdoggy
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2004 - 4:05 pm: | |
Were they suppose to give me the title from north carolina from the bus company they got it from, or were they suppose to reg it in va, or what, that is where the confusion lies...I did not get the title...just temp tags,insp, and bill of sale. |
Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2004 - 4:12 pm: | |
In your first message you said you had a temporary registration, do you not have this?
You HAVE to find out from you DMV.
Gary |
Sojourner (Jjimage)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2004 - 7:39 pm: | |
Get a title from seller with his signature for buyer go to or send it to SECRETARY OF STATE.
They (SOS) will sent to your address a new title with your name.
Hope you have title in your hand after you paid seller?
Wish you well!
For what it’s worth.
Sojourn for Christ, Jerry |
Sojourner (Jjimage)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2004 - 8:16 pm: | |
After you receive your first title as bus in your name, then do like what Caption Ron said,
Remove enough seat so it less tan 9 passenger, toilet (portable or permanent), bed (mattress or sleeping bag), camping stove and table with a chair.
I n Florida, take it to the tax collectors office and they will check serial # and give you title application and a sheriff can look at # and sign the paper with “motorhome” listed for new title.
They (TCO) will help you to get title change from commercial bus to motorhome or motor house or housecar.
When ever you get insurance, always say motorhome…..Do not mention BUS…….or you will be paying higher price and a runarounds.
For what it’s worth.
Sojourn or Christ, Jerry |
Sojourner (Jjimage)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2004 - 8:21 pm: | |
Title from secretary of state may take several weeks.
So call them for a follow up report.
For what it's worth.
Sojourn for Christ, Jerry |
neomax
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2004 - 10:31 pm: | |
In Ca. u have the additional option of registering it as a private bus for private use, which removes it from the commercial classification. Beyond that, they don't care if u convert it for other use or not, but do not get caught using it for hire in any way or hauling more than 12 people without a Class A license.
You should have gotten a clear title from the seller, or the previous owner. Without it, I suspect you are going to be hassled mercilessly. A Bill of Sale is generally only good for non-titled vehicles or equipment such as earth movers. The bus, even if owned by a public entity, was titled, and clear possesion of the title is generally the proof of ownership, while the Bill of Sale in ure case merely establishes a value for taxation(registration) if that applies in whatever state u title and register it in. Contact the previous owner/s and demand a clear title. |
H3 (Ace)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2004 - 10:59 pm: | |
I too purchased a coach from Easter's and all they gave me was a Va temp tag, bill of sale, and NO title! The title arrived a few weeks later at my home in Florida! All you need to register the coach in Florida is a bill of sale and have a notary (we happened to have a friend where Susan works that did this) OR sherrif (police) verify the milage. There is a from that the MVA will give you to fill out to apply for a title in your name in your state (Fl.)! You don't have to show the bus to anyone other than a notary and they can care less whether you have seats, sink, toilet or nothing at all in it!
Now that I think about it, I think Easter's registered it as a MH in Va.
Now if you financed the bus, the lien holder will hold the title until YOU pay it off! In our case we paid for the coach at time of delivery so the title arrived, as I said a short time later!
Ace |
noopdoggy
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2004 - 7:49 am: | |
I paid cash for the bus also, and I have now emailed them to ask where the title is...Thanks everyone for all the info and I will let you know what happens. Linda |
John that newguy
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2004 - 8:26 am: | |
I'm in Flor-a-duh and Ace's comments for this state reflect my
experience here also. They also changed the weight of my MCI
to under 20k when they titled/registered it. They asked if I would
be taking the seats out and I had to cross my heart and will die
if I didn't... I'm a procrastinator, and a week before I decided to
finally take the seats out, I started having chest pains. The seats
are out and I'm feeling much better now, thank you.
The bottom line here,Linda... each state has their own policy.
To make it worse, every individual working for whatever agency
you apply to, will interpret the policy in their own way... putting
their own little twist to it.
If I had to do it again someplace else, I'd still go in and tell them
that I bought it as a "whateverbrand" motorhome shell.
They'll do a good job figuring it out. Telling them too much just
confuses the task. |
H3 (Ace)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2004 - 9:50 am: | |
Oh and I forgot to mention that Easter's though they have some good deals, are not at the top of the list when it comes to communication! YOU need to stay on THEM or you can forget it! It took Susan I don't know how many calls, NOT e-mails, to retrieve the title!
Persistance!
Ace |
FAST FRED
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2004 - 12:40 pm: | |
"They also changed the weight of my MCI
to under 20k when they titled/registered it."
This is a VERY dangerous way to attempt to save tiny money.
At times there are DOT and State road checks with SCALES!
Sure,, mostly they target the truckers , but after all the wrecks cheapo charter coaches have been having , YOU in a Bus camper could get weighed.
Never happened to me , yet, but if it does your grounded on the spot till you redoccument the vehicle.
ROADSIDE ,Would be a poor way to spend a week or two , if you were planning on camping.
Most likely would be a weigh scale , aftergoing over restricted old bridges , or certain cities streets.
The Max weight of the axles is now my choice , for me 32,000 in an 06.
With a tag you get more.
FAST FRED |
Niles
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2004 - 3:36 pm: | |
noopdog -
The correct documents for florida;
1) Fully executable title (including assignments)from whatever state including notorized signatures of sellers or signed and notorized powers of attorney (just because you bought your bus from a VA dealer doesn't mean a VA title)
2) Completed Title Application
3) Proof of insurance
4) Declaration of use as Motor Home (weight doesn't matter - use the GVW on your man. plate)
5) Bill of sale
6) Plenty of Cash (most important for da 'crats)
Niles |
John that newguy
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 28, 2004 - 7:43 am: | |
Total nonsense, FF. I won't elaborate. |
MCI Larry (Eurof3)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, November 28, 2004 - 8:27 pm: | |
My dealer put a MOTORHOME SHELL in Transit sign on my door. And gave me a 30 day temporary tag. BUT I took my van plate so I had a license plate on the back. NO problem 880 miles home.
My insurance company would not insure a commercial bus. But covered me to get home with,pl,pd.
My vehicle number came up on AAA`s computer as a commercial vehicle. So I had to take my bus to the secretary of state, to an appointment made by them. To have new vin numbers assigned and placed on the coach.
Now my title number (vin) comes up as a motorhome. And AAA will insure me now.
Was really easy.
The Secretary of State also needed a new weight slip and a statement from me saying what I had done to it. Bed, shower, toilet, sink, stove etc. no biggie.
The day of my inspection,the inspector asked me if he could look inside. Interested in what we had done, not checking to see if it were done. He just wanted to see inside. It was more about getting the correct Vin number in a permeant place on the coach.Not if it was finished inside or not.
Best of luck you will do just fine. Larry |
FAST FRED
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 5:35 am: | |
"Total nonsense, FF. I won't elaborate."
Oh please do,
I'd love to hear how to drive an overweight vehicle , without risk.
FAST FRED |
John that newguy
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 11:55 pm: | |
The manufacturer's "tag" stating the weight the vehicle can carry
has nothing to do with any legislated road requirement regarding
weight carried on any particular roadway. The manufacturer's tag
simply tells the owner/operator of the vehicle how much weight the
manufacturer feels the axles can bear without failure. Vehicles
sold for off-road carry of sand, gravel or demolition products
carry manufacturers's claims and registered/titled weights that
far exceed the weight that can be carried on any roadway.
When any "official" stops and checks a vehicle's weight, he does
so using the standards applied by the vehicle's size and axle
configuration. If the weight in/of the vehicle exceeds the size/axle
configuration and/or exceeds the weight the roadway can bear,
the vehicle is in violation.
It makes absolutely no difference what any manufacturer's tag
states, nor does it matter what weight description is on any
title or registration. That information is used for taxation/fees in
whatever state has applied the requirement. The officers that
check weights do not care about the taxation of another state,
nor are they involved in the regulatory actions of the entity that
has levied the taxation. It is not their duty, nor is it their venue
and jurisdiction to be involved in those matters.
If your vehicle is found to exceed the weight that may be deemed
correct for the size and axle configuration as set by the legislation,
and you produce you manufacturer's; your titled; your registered
weight notations, it will be ignored. It legally has no value in this matter.
In the case of the titling/registering entity changing a previously
claimed weight to a lower, new weight description.... It does not
matter one iota regarding any safe or legal action that may take place
on any roadway. No-one will be ticketed, fined, or made to unload
any cargo because the weight of the vehicle exceeds the weight
description that the title or registration bears.
And lastly... Regarding the taxation... The department that issues the
title and/or registration at the time of titling and/or registering, has
the duty to insure the proper figures are applied. If there is an
error, they bear the responsibility. If they had arbitrarily designated
a weight (as they had in my case), they bear the responsibility.
Is it an issue? The bus (MC9) is declared 20k as manufactured,
with seats, luggage racks, AC, etc. BY THE MANUFACTURER
The registry designated 18k, as a shell.
You may be a nice guy, and I may like your simple way of life,
but you can stampede the herd with a false cry of wolf. |
Derek (Derek_l)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 1:25 am: | |
John, in this matter you're plain and simple, wrong.
An officer that looks at your vehicle, *that is licensed to weigh up to 18,000lbs*, CAN and WILL ticket you for weighing 20,000.
"In the case of the titling/registering entity changing a previously
claimed weight to a lower, new weight description.... It does not
matter one iota regarding any safe or legal action that may take place
on any roadway. No-one will be ticketed, fined, or made to unload
any cargo because the weight of the vehicle exceeds the weight
description that the title or registration bears. "
The above paragraph is a good reason to think about what is said online and in person, rather than just believe it.
Your post is so incorrect I can't even fathom where you're coming from. |
FAST FRED
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 5:13 am: | |
"No-one will be ticketed, fined, or made to unload
any cargo because the weight of the vehicle exceeds the weight
description that the title or registration bears. "
I sugest you go to to any DOT guy , but do it from a car , don't bring your "18,000" registered bus camper that probably is 5 or 6 tons heavier than legaly registered..
Just stop at any weigh station for an EDUCATION.
What folks can do in the back woods , off road concerning vehicle weights ,with out equippment failure , as nothing to do with the FEEs we pay to use the roads, your registration weight is ALL you get on any public road.
FAST FRED |
Don/TX
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 8:30 am: | |
John, you are simply way off base there. I am an EX Kansas weights and registration cop, and I can assure you that many drivers have been ticketed or sent to jail for this, by me. |
John that newguy
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 9:20 am: | |
To those that posted opposing comments regarding registered weight vs
allowable road use (in the USA):
To insure I had the proper information, I had already checked with three
Florida departments that oversee vehicular titling and registration, for both
private and commercial usage. The only legal issue, would be that of the
taxation of a vehicle that should be taxed by it's weight, and/or that of any
requirement of a special driver's license to drive that vehicle of that size
and weight. Those parameters do not reach the RV classifications in
most states; that is: Recreational vehicles are of their own classification
in most states and do not require special licensing for their size or weight.
The taxation issue is not addressed by police enforcement as normal duty
without warrant.
A vehicle is deemed to be overweight, not by any titled or registered
information supplied, but when it exceeds the computation of axle load
and weight distribution for that axle configuration.
You do not need a "fuel tax stamp" to drive your diesel powered bus
conversion, or to buy fuel for it, in Kansas, You can be detained and fined
if your -commercial vehicle- does not conform to Kansas requirements.
(an officer ticketing you for picking your nose does not make it law)
You do not have to follow the trucks into any weigh stations, with your
bus conversion; If it were registered for commercial usage, you would
be required to follow.
If you are stopped for crossing that cute little wooden covered bridge
in West Swanzey NH, because it's weight restriction limits vehicles
to under 6 tons.... It does not matter if your title or registration claims
your bus weighs 4 tons. Your vehicle would be weighed and if the axle
configuration places more than 6 tons on that bridge, you will be cited.
You can argue apples and oranges all day... Check around. I did. |
John that newguy
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 10:14 am: | |
FF-
Ask fifteen "DOT guys" the same question and you'll get 30
different answers if you ask them twice. They are not "law makers",
they are "law enforcers" that may interpret law incorrectly at times.
When they do so, we have the courts to help define the law, among
other legal remedies.
I have an education, Fred. If you have the time, find documentation
that describes the methods to insure a vehicle using a roadway is in
compliance to the roadway's designated weight bearing capacity.
If you manage to locate any legal documentation at all, for any area
or locality, that states the vehicle's registered/titled weight description
is to be used in any manner conducive or otherwise meaningful to
the proper determination of weight bearing load for that roadway's
usage, or the restriction of same, let me know. I'd be interested in
furthering my education with your help. |
noopdoggy
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 11:25 am: | |
Why not to get off the subject???Title came today vi FedEx...All signed and dated on the day of purchase, but not until I emailed everyday asking about it did it come...BTW it is the original title issued to piedmont by nc...my bus cost $66,000 in 74...whew!....anyway as soon as rv conversion is done I don't think I will have much problem with florida dmv...I hope...Thanks again guys for the lively discussion. Linda |
noopdoggy
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 11:31 am: | |
PS, FYI All our luggage bays were chocker block full of nos parts for mci and gm via US Coach. We are catorgorizing all and taking pics, and will sell for pennies on a doller, but the biggest problem will be identifying all, so in another day or so I will post a link on the flea market board, to a site created for all these parts and we would appreciate anyones input as to what these un-named parts are, and maybe value of...We figured anything anyone wants, find you best deal and willwill sell for less than half. There are many filters,boxes of them,electrical,brake,engine rebuild parts,injectors,gaskets,belts,rubbers,and 1000's of small boxed parts of what we don't know..I will post as soon as we can start the list..Thanks again to all you willing to give newbies advice, and knowledge!!! Linda |
John that newguy
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 11:50 am: | |
Don-
If you are an ex-"cop", you must be aware of the jurisdiction of an
officer's coverage?
Although all states honor the vehicle registrations of other states,
allowing us to pass through one state to the next, without
re-registering the entire way for each individual state..... No
state enforces any other state's registration requirements.
Driving a vehicle registered in Massachusetts, that has an invalid
inspection sticker for that state, into Florida, holds no legal
ramifications in the state of Florida. Florida does not uphold
vehicular laws for the state of Massachusetts.
Driving an automobile registered in Florida, into the state of
Massachusetts does not require a Massachusetts inspection sticker,
since the vehicle is not required to have one in the state that it
was registered in (Florida).
Likewise, title or registration information such as the declared
carrying weight of the vehicle, is not required to be checked or
tested in any other state than it was registered in, since one
state's requirements may be different than the another state's
requirements. It is up to the registering state to monitor their own
policies.
If Florida arbitrarily decides that all "diesel pushers" weigh 18
thousand pounds for their registration and titling purposes, it
matters little to any officer that is attempting to make a
determination if the vehicle's weight exceeds the requirements of
the roadway it is upon. It is the axle/vehicle size configuration
and the actual weight carried at that time, that is of any legal
value or consequence.
To suggest that what one state has decided is prudent for their own
vehicular registration purposes, will cause irreparable harm (jail)
to any complying individual while driving through some other state,
is ludicrous. As an "officer" of one state, it is not your duty nor
jurisdiction, to enforce some other state's legislation. |
Jtng
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 11:53 am: | |
Ok Linda!!
'nuff about the "legalities"...
I'll look forward to your "for sale" postings, as we all will. New
old stock parts are always nice at 1/2 price!!
Cheers! |
noopdoggy
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 1:19 pm: | |
Pics are posted, lists to follow.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gmc-busnuts/files/BusDieselParts4Sale/ |
Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 1:22 pm: | |
that link is accessible only to members of GMC Busnuts. |
John that newguy
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 1:50 pm: | |
(I feel so left out)
Hey Gary... If we join, do we learn
the "special handshake" and get to wear a
funny hat? |
Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 1:52 pm: | |
We would at least find out why the engines are sideways...
Gary |
John the yahoohater
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 1:58 pm: | |
I have a good mind to join and post the name and
password on the newsgroups (alt.free.password ?) |
Jack Conrad (Jackconrad)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 2:29 pm: | |
Linda,
If your bays are chock full of bus stuff, bring it to Bussin' 2005 for the swap meet. I am sure you will probably go home with empty bays (except for the stuff you find at the swap meet that you did not know you could not live without LOL) |
noopdoggy
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 5:08 pm: | |
hERE'S A START ON THE LIST
...........FILTERS..........................
6 case's fram C 1175 PL. 12 per case
4 wix fuel filter # 33512
12 wix fuel filter # 33651
2 fram oil filter # C-1150 PB
1 fram oil filter, cartridge type # CH 33 APL
14 wix sock type oil filter #CW-132... 51132.
Fits AC SD-3 series filters...replaces, AC C-126, fram C-108T, purolator PT-68
1 napa sock style fuel filter # 3552
2 AC sock style fuel filter# T-552
1 new cartridge style fuel filter housing
1 new cartridge style oil filter housing
4 Baldwin power steering filters # P-186
.............................SEALS...........................
CR seals
7ea # 44968
1 ea # 40078
2 ea # 48693
2 ea # 44964
1 ea # 46790
2 ea # 45010
1 ea # 48065
3 ea # 31390
3 ea # 31369
2 ea # 29925...4905 trans output shaft
3 ea detroit diesel seal # 5114335
4 ea stemco hub seal # 320-2058
3 ea rockwell seal # A-1205-K-682
1 mohawk seal kit # 712998
1 federal mogul seal # 455378 H
1 federal mogul seal # 340136
5 ea stemco axle ring # 310-1093
3 ea thermo-king comp. shaft seal # 302-251
CR ring #
700
702
704
706
708
710
711
712
713
715
716
718
............................MISC...........................
2 ea GM arm/bushing # 2422862
2 ea GM arm/bushing # 2422861
2 ea bendix park valve kit # 281126
2 ea Eagle U-bolt kit # 3-94-18X
1 gradustat # 2486329
6 korody-colyer seal/sleeve # K 5196927
1 korody-colyer seal # K 5196927
1 CR brake master unloader valve kit #235 for turbo 2000 and XD2000
1ea napa air tank bleeder valve w/ cable # 66164
2 ea 12 volt tail light assembly 7" # 91311R
2 ea model 91 12 volt tail light assembly 7"
1 MCI 24 volt lamp model # 0708
3 ea 7" red lense Do-Ray # 99088R
2 ea 7" red lense Signal-stat # 7R-7-51
2 ea 4905 back up light assembly
3 ea amber bee-hive lenses
1 GM clearance light Amber # 753
4 ea 4 1/4 red lenses
2 ea MCI red marker lenses 1 7/8" X 4 3/4"
1 borg-warner stoplight switch # S-237
2 ea napa door jamb switch # DJ 6567
5 ea clear step-well light lenses
5 napa flasher # 582
1 napa flush mount stop light no lense # 104-47001
..............................WIPERS............................
2 ea 35" primary wiper arm
2 ea 36" primary wiper arm
3 ea 30" secondary wiper arm
2 ea 32" primary wiper arm
2ea 30" secondary wiper arm
1 22" primary wiper arm
2ea 14" extensions
1 18" refill
3 ea 28" refill
1 20" refill
3 ea 28" blades
1 26" blade
...........................ENGINE PARTS.......................
20 ea N-60 re-man injectors # 5229360 in boxes
1 7E-60 injector in box
5 ea N-60 re-man injectors in bags
1 muncie trans throw-out collar # 2388840
2 ea Leece-Neville 38 volt voltage regulators # 3789BB
1 korody-colyer trans oil pump kit # K5195078
1 GM treadle valve rebuild kit # 796723
1 AD2 purge valve kit # 287053
4 ea MRC bearings # 203SZZ-H 501
5 sets detroit bearing shell .002 # 5149557
2 sets detroit bearing shell .010 # 5149575
2 ea Boda clutch shaft # 2451725
6 ea detroit engine cyl. sleeve in box GR 1.6182 # 5199956
1 sleeve, in box GR 1.6180 # 23504936
9 ea sleeve open, no box
3 ea dimmer switch Delco # 1997041
4 ea fan belt # 3911 8K-27-7
1 durkee-atwood fan belt C90 42341 34.75
1 gates power cable fan belt 042SS
2ea used GM belts 81-27-97 EB
5 ea GM trans mounts # 769652
3 ea fafner bearing # 205 KDD
2 ea CR seals for gear fan # 13588
2 ea ac delco pressure switch # 5653937
2 ea ac delco air switch 4C-14-1
1 4905 step warning lamp bulb # 9431809
1 allison speedometer drive # 6839881
2 ea mohawk stud kits # 2425856
5 ea seals # 2355087
1 weir-stat thermostat # 413070
2 ea shaft # 05117928
4 ea cover # 2434186
1 24 volt solonoid valve LH 1 C 130DC2A3D |
JTNG
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 5:15 pm: | |
YIKES !!
I@n's gonna' have a Cananadadaian hemorrhage.
Quick.... save the text and email addy..!! |
Don/TX
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 8:11 pm: | |
John, this is the only incorrect portion: "Likewise, title or registration information such as the declared
carrying weight of the vehicle, is not required to be checked or
tested in any other state than it was registered in, since one
state's requirements may be different than the another state's
requirements. It is up to the registering state to monitor their own
policies"
You might register your Kenworth in Florida to carry only 50,000 lbs gross. I can assure you that each and every state you enter with a 75,000 load will allow you to make a very generous donation to their treasurer, and they could care less what you did in Florida. |
FAST FRED
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 5:37 am: | |
"We would at least find out why the engines are sideways..."
Thats EZ , the engines are sideways for a great bunch of reasons.
First to get most of the free flat floor space of a 40 ft T drivein a 35 ft overall size.
(really handy for campers to have the extra room with out the weight OR wheelbase).
Second to make engine access easier , same with gear not belt drive for accessories,to reduce service hours.
V drive power package is also really EZ to pull , Hound would do engine swops at night ,
My Miami source tells me most times it was done before midnight , and only hooking up & aligning the air cond too "any" time.
Of course these fellows had a engine tranny on a cradle ready to plop in and all the PROPER equippment.
And had practiced, practice practiced.
FAST FRED |
Gary McFarland (Gearheadgary)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 6:09 am: | |
Fred, dude.
it wuz a joke.
Gary |
John that newguy
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 9:57 am: | |
Don-
The confusion... lies within the scope of "commercial use" vs
"Private use"; the taxation of vehicles based on GVWR; the
requirement of manufacturers to provide GVWR information to the
public for the use of safety provisions that may be necessary for
public safety with a vehicle that exceeds a certain weight, size or
power.... and the need for a "tag" to be present to inform the owner
or inspector, regardless of the registered value provided.
This interesting URL provides some insight to the problems bus
converters might be facing in the future:
http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/06jun20041800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/2004/pdf/04-1 4564.pdf
Items and issues required for commercial vehicles do not generally
apply to motorhome and recreational vehicles or their drivers. That
may be subject to change very soon.
In most all states, driving a vehicle that is in excess of the GVWR
that it has been registered for, will result in a fines or penalties
for the delay in paying the proper taxes that would have been
applied for the vehicle had it been otherwise properly registered
with the correct weight capacity.
Failure to provide the safety concerns (brake power, lights, flares,
reflectors,etc) for a vehicle that meets the weight/size
requirements that would necessitate that equipment, normally will
result in fines.
So, of course.... if you change the GVWR to a lesser amount to avoid
the need for certain safety equipment, or to be able to drive that
equipment without special license, you would be doing so fraudulently
and be subject to penalty.
Registering an empty bus.... that weighs 27,000 complete, to be
18,000 empty, does not fall far into any grey area. It didn't matter to
me at the time, but the department chief insisted that all "bus conversion
types" are about 18,000 pounds and since there was no scales to use,
that arbitrary figure was applied. Asking about "being stopped and
questioned" about the registered value vs the manufacturer's
tag...... and the answer was: "It doesn't matter. The registered
weight is for (my state's) taxation purposes. If there's a question
of weight while "on the road", they will not go by "registered
weight", they will weigh the equipment at that time". They also
added that it did not change the manufacturer's GVWR....
I did not ask for the weight amount to be reduced, the DMV applied
the amount; I would have been happy with the original amount. For
taxation purposes, the vehicle should be weighed again at time of
completion and the weight value updated to reflect the final vehicle
weight.
If this were a commercial vehicle rather than one registered for
personal use and not meeting any of the usual "for carry" or "for
hire" classifications, I would be more concerned, as anyone should
be. I think there's a mountain being made out of a mole-hill with
this topic, and that's what I implied in my comments to FF.
Causing needless worry and concern over "registered weight", "red
dyed fuel", and the countless other issues that generally should not
concern an "RVr", just adds to the burden of building these things.
When a guy changes the characteristics of a BIG vehicle by raising
the roof, moving a door, or otherwise changing the manufactured and
structural engineering, it should be a thousand times of more serious
concern (both legal and safety) than the changing of it's locally
registered weight on a document not intended for Federal use
or application.
I assume I'm not gonna' have the last word and I accept that. But I
won't add to this topic further.
It's all food for thought whilst hammering that thumb. |
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