| Author | Message | ||
| Todd Amon (Teqsand)
Rating: N/A |
HI agian, everyones favorte inquisitive guy. My 60' 4104 has a filter on it right next to the oil filter, in fact it looks like an oil filter, it has an IN line drom behind the oil filter on the block then an OUT line to another fitting on the block on the right side befor the flywheel. when I start and warm up the bus, water comes out the hole on the top, about a quart at least. the guy i bought the bus from says is an oil condensation filter and that its normal to do that. he also called it an oil/water seperator, anyone ever heard of this? kinda makes me nervous, but i really cant see water on the dipstick. | ||
| Jim-Bob (Pd41044039)
Rating: N/A |
That's an interesting one, Todd. Try to post a picture or two. I'm upset 'cause my '59 4104 doesn't have one! Jim-Bob | ||
| Todd Amon (Teqsand)
Rating: N/A |
Ok here are 2 pics of the item http://www.racefannews.com/bus/todd_motor.jpg http://www.racefannews.com/bus/todd_motor2.jpg | ||
| jimmci9 #2 Rating: N/A |
from the looks of it, its a standard fuel filter base that some one has added/modified for some reason...my guess is a water filter... 1 that adds conditioner to the coolant....are there any legible part numbers/brand on the filter???... that'll help too | ||
| Jim-Bob (Pd41044039)
Rating: N/A |
Todd, I think what you have there is a jury rigged catch container for the engine's air box drains so they don't spit all over the ground, the car you are towing & the back of the bus. Your engine should have (on each end of the block, down near the bottom,) a 1/4" 90 degree elbow, and about 15" of copper tubing running down & blowing on the road. When the engine is running, air & oil/fuel "spit" will come out of one or both of these tubes. They drain the air box, between the blower & the cylinder ports. When someone has cleaned the car enough, they look into extending these lines into some sort of canister to catch the drips which then would get emptied periodically. It looks like this is a standard lube or fuel filter which they have utilized to strain the air & vent out of the fitting on top which would normally be an inlet or outlet connection. (It is threaded, right?) As I am sitting here thinking about this, I see water on the bumper support and I am thinking that maybe rainwater or washwater gets into the open port & fills the thing up. If this is true, it sound like the darn thing is full & when the engine starts, the air coming into it blows the nasty, oily water out all over 'till the air can get out without moving the contents. I would trace the hoses & see if they go to low on the block on each end and that there are no regular air box drain tubes. Then I would replace the filter element. Then I would get some fittings & make a cane shaped vent tube to keep water out. Put a piece of brass wool or similar in the end to keep the mud wasps from clogging it up. I think you will want to drain this filter at each oil change. If you idle the engine a lot it spits more because at idle some of the injected fuel gets out of the ports into the air box. If your blower seals are worn, some oil will get in from there. Jim-Bob | ||
| Todd Amon (Teqsand)
Rating: N/A |
WOW what can I say, what an explination, Now I have a ton of info to go on  Thanks all, Specially Jim-bob, you guys make owning a coach alot more enjoyable Thanks | ||
| Jim-Bob (Pd41044039)
Rating: N/A |
Aw shucks, it weren't nuthin..... I didn't have anything else to do. I was at work! What a country. Jim-Bob PS: let us know what you find. | ||
| BrianMCI Rating: N/A |
In any case, extracting a quart of water from the oil at start-up sounds pretty screwy... whatever this thing is (and I think Jim-Bob is right), you need to find out where it is picking up the water and try to prevent it. Brian | ||
| Larry Winchell
Rating: N/A |
If it has water coming out the top perhaps it is a "water filter and conditioner. Some coaches were equiped with this item to prevent corrosion. The elements that prevented the corrosion were replaced on a regular maintenance schedule. Baldwin make a spin on filter for the same purpose (balanced treatment for ethylene glycol) filter number BW5136. |