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John that newguy

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Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2005 - 8:15 am:   

Has anyone here designed a side-isle floor plan? I'd like to
keep the entire bathroom contained in it's own room, but
can't seem to work out a decent plan to allow for enough
closet space. Side-isles seem to take up too much room,
no matter how I lay it out it...

Can some floor plans be posted to this board? I'm sure
I'm not alone with the interest.....
Albert (Al4106)

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Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2005 - 9:06 am:   

I have a side-isle on my 4106 and the closet is in the back of the bus, behind the head of the bed, from one side of the coach to the other, with a door at both sides of the bed. And draw space at the foot of the bed's wall. With walk space all around the bed. Works for us.

AL4106
T. (Bluegrass)

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Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2005 - 9:06 am:   

John
You are absolutely right, I tried to put a side Isle together for a Eagle and could not come up with any that would suite my purpose, I have just about decided that a center Isle Is all that I can use. the bride wants a washer and dryer combo In the bathroom and It just cant be done, ( I don't believe )
Tony
Geoff (Geoff)

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Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2005 - 9:14 am:   

I used a "semi" side aisle design, unfortunately I don't have a diagram to post. My bathroom is a walk-through design, and with the semi-side entrance (with sliding door) I have room on that wall for the 2 closets, vanity/sink, and toilet. The opposite side has the offset 36" neo-angle shower and another closet and electrical control center. The doorway from the bathroom to the bedroom is centered with two sliding doors that come together.

With this design I got away from the "bowling-ball lane" look of a center walkway, and I have more privacy for the bath and bedroom with the door open.

--Geoff
'82 RTS CA
TWO DOGS

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Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2005 - 9:37 am:   

Tony...

I have a full size washer/dryer in my Eagle,it came in thru the back window...if I had it to do over again...I'd get those 'stackable' r.v. units & put them in the center(p.s.) bay
Jim and Myrna Lawrence (Daffycanuck)

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Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2005 - 11:43 am:   

Checkout our layout. We've lived in it now for seven years....works nice for us.

http://lawrj.sasktelwebsite.net/specs.htm

Shower is nice size, toilet is ceramic as well as sink.

Bedroom has space for Washer dryer (splendid 2000) but we've never installed it.
Marc Bourget

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Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2005 - 12:06 pm:   

At the Ocktoberfest one year, received numerous comments from ladies that they preferred a small side room with toilet/sink for privacy sake.

These units usually had a vanity/makeup mirror in bedroom to compliment .

One confessed that she originally "went along to get along" but actual experience with the full bath wore on her and so she changed - er forced a remodel. (Yes, re-plummed the black tank and the whole bit!)

This side-room water closet permits continued access to the rear bedroom while those who either have health issues, slowing down delivery, or otherwise simply choose to linger occupy the W/C.

Toilet placement in either style is complicated by those that experience a large weight gain as they age.

Anticipate that a life partner, presently in good health, may change their preference as age and infirmaties creep closer/weight creeps upward.

Locate toilet accordingly.

FWIW

Onward and Upward

Marc Bourget
TWO DOGS

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Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2005 - 12:09 pm:   

why no sunken tubs
Johnny

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Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2005 - 2:13 pm:   

I'm doing a sunken shower. :-)

But no tub.

For space reasons, I'm putting the toilet & sink (draining to the black tank) on one side, & the shower room on the other.
Marc Bourget

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Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2005 - 3:35 pm:   

Johnny, To lazy to raise the roof? LOL!

Actually, I've seen several sunken installations and would go that direction if not for other issues.

Onward and Upward
S Follows

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Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2005 - 7:35 pm:   

John,
Send me your email address and I'll send you a Word doc with my latest side-aisle layout. It is a scanned image (from pen and paper) for a MCI102C3.
My wife and I have been playing around with various designs and this one seems to work well if you want a completely separate bathroom.

Regards
Scott Follows
scott.follows@acadiau.ca
Johnny

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Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2005 - 7:58 pm:   

I'm not too hot on the idea of cutting & splicing lots of structural parts if I don't have to.

And raised roof + roof A/C + trees can=serious cursing.
John that newguy

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Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2005 - 8:19 pm:   

Mucho' thanks guys!

We desired to have as large a "living room" as possible;
ample space and room for cooking decent meals; space
around a queen-sized bed (3 sides), and a bathroom that
allows for some privacy.

And adding to that wish... is the wish to have ample closet
and pantry space for clothes, food and utensils, and hobby
stuff. The "hobby stuff" can go underneath, along with extra
clothing that may or may not be required for daily use. So,
space inside need not be as at a premium as it was in an RV.

That left me with the planning of a "side isle" bathroom. It'd
be great to have one like Jim and Myrna , but it sure looks
like it cuts dearly into the "living room" area... The refrigerator
or other kitchen needs, can't be put on the opposite wall, since
there's an isle to contend with... That spreads out the floor
plan somewhat..

I do like that layout, though! The bathroom in a motorhome
should provide the user of some privacy. Most all of those
"high end" jobs seem to overlook personal needs for the
glitter and glamour...

So Jim & Myrna... I thank you for providing that floor plan
to me! I'll do some measuring again tonight and see if I can
get it to work. I had a plan taped out similar to yours, but
not with the potty at that angle. Maybe it'd fit better that way.
I'm curious to what the dimensions of the shower are. I set
36x36 for ours, allowing for walls. I might be over allowing....

And Geoff..... Thanks. I laid out that type of "split", trying to
get the isle at an angle between the toilet/sink and shower..
And I tried a shower/toilet and sink... and ugh... on and on..
I've spent almost as much on painter's tape as I paid for
the bus... (not really).

Sooooo.... I'll go measure and tape some more.

Oh, and that "sunken shower"? I looked at a partial conversion
up in Massachusetts last winter, that had one. It was about a
foot deep from the floor (in a 4903). The guy put a washer/dryer
in a closet opposite the sunken shower. It looked nice, until
I stepped back from looking at the washing machine....and
fell into the shower. It's handy to be able to wash off the blood
without soiling the carpet... I think I'll pass on the sunken stuff.
Living in Flor-AH-duh, "sunken" is the last thing you hope for.

And Marc-

"locate the toilet accordingly". Yes.

The Winnegarbage we had, had just enough room to squat.
Reaching for the paper was a challenge. I won't elucidate further.

I have been allowing 29" for all aisles and door openings, and
that included the space alongside the toilet for both access and
err..access. I guess that might be where I"m losing some space
and making a side-isle more difficult.

Thanks again folks! Your input was very much appreciated!!

(I have to get back to measuring)
H3 (Ace)

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Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2005 - 9:18 pm:   

I like the idea of having a large LR because our thoughts are, why have a huge room you spend so little time in such as Bathroom or BR? We designed our Bathroom so that one could be at the sink or in the shower and another could pass by with ease.

This is our 3rd conversion, 2nd actually done by us. Both were figured with walkways and doorways using no more than 24 inches, the size of an actuall door. I thought at first this would be too narrow and cause the person to turn slightly sideways but 24 inches has worked out just fine, without bumping shoulders.

One thing you may want to keep in mind is, no matter what size shower you purchase, you will always have to figure on more space than what it actuall is such as, if you buy a 36x36 shower, you will more than likely need to allow about 3-6 inches more UNLESS your side wall is plumb and sqaure. I haven't seen one yet thatwas exact meaning you must move the shower away from the side wall to get it all to work right! Mine was 3 inches out of sqaure and my Eagle was even more! Moving it out away from the wall means your entrance door or passage way also moves.

Our eagle had a bed that was up against one side wall and though that mde for more room in the BR, which I liked very much, it was always a pain to make the bed not to mention getting in and out in the middle of the night for the one sleeping against the wall!

Though side isle coaches leave you with a larger Bathroom with plenty of storage etc., it also makes for a one person walkway and with a rounded ceiling (in most coaches) it gives the feeling of being closed in and a stroll down the walkway with your head tilted!

We have a door entering the bath over to one side of the coach and a door on the opposite side entering the BR which we found gives us plenty of privacy even with the doors open as it doesn't have that straight thru look! So far it has worked out for us very well and given us many compliments on the "different" look!

Works for us!

Ace
Johnny

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Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2005 - 10:36 pm:   

You spend little time in the bedroom? Uhh...OK...

I want room there because:
I'm a big guy who doesn't want to be tripping over stuff getting dressed.
While I generally don't mind climbing over my wife, :-) I'd rather not have to do so (or vice versa) to get in/out of bed.
Stephen Fessenden (Sffess)

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Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 5:01 pm:   

Side aisle designs are for privacy. If you usually only have two people on board, privacy is a matter of courtesy. A center aisle can provide a much bigger bathroom and only courtesy is needed to give privacy. Put the closets along one sidewall of the bathroom and you have a huge dressing room. If you plan on having two kids along regularly, privacy may demand too much patience.

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