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Jim in California
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 3:51 am: | |
Folks, most know about the Splendide washer/dryer setups. I've come across another I want opinions on:
http://www.compactappliance.com/xq/JSP.detailmain/Supra_Washer_Dryer_Combo_(110_Volt)___Ventless;_12_1_lb__Load/itemID.8837/itemType.PRODUCT/iMainCat.24/iSubCat.45/i ProductID.8837/qx/shopping/product/SW5L30D.htm
[errr...cut'n'splice the long URL, sorry]
The reason this one looks interesting is, it's got it's own internal water heater and hence runs off of nothing but cold water and 110v juice.
Here's why this seems neat: I'm going to need a modest trailer of at least 20ft and 4,000lb capacity to deal with my motorcycles and some shop space. Seems to me I could run a pair of 50 - 70gal water tanks (fresh and waste) near the axles, run 12v and 110v generator power into the trailer and put the washer/dryer in the front section. Put the bike in the rear to balance things out, along with a shop area...workbench in the middle on top of the tanks plus some tools, etc. Total weight would be in the 2500-3000lb range, practical enough and should keep the hitch weight to reasonable levels as long as the load is balanced.
With a Splendide, I'd have to have a water heater in the trailer too. With this thing, all I need is the tanks and a basic 12v water pump.
10.3 gallons a cycle, 55gal tanks means 5 loads on the road. Not bad. And that extra water can perhaps be re-routed into the coach in a pinch by using the trailer's 12v pump and a long transfer hose on the fresh...dumping the coach's gray or black to the trailer would be more problematic and probably not worth bothering to set up.
It turns out these combo units are REAL popular in Europe and there's potentially a lot more choices out there than the Splendides.
And with trailer mounting, we could run bigger units with their own tanks. |
John that newguy
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 8:17 am: | |
I'm confuseled:
"I'm going to need a modest trailer of at least 20ft and 4,000lb
capacity to deal with my motorcycles and some shop space. Seems to
me I could run a pair of 50 - 70gal water tanks (fresh and waste)
near the axles, "
You need over 3,000 lbs for the motorcycle, shop, etc, ..... alone....?
And you want to add another 1,200 pounds of water..
It's not so much the extra space it takes, but the weight.... |
Jon W.
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 9:30 am: | |
The splendide and asko brands are unreliable. They may make their own hot water, but they are maintenance pigs. We are back to small stackable Kenmore and the reliability is worth the additional space required. |
Sean Welsh (Sean)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 10:20 am: | |
John -- I think your math is off. Even if he uses the larger 70 gallon tanks, that's still only 580 pounds. Five loads on this machine would only require 55 gallons, or 460 pounds.
-Sean |
Don/TX
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 10:36 am: | |
I found the stacked Kenmore type to be the only one that was feasible when I was shopping. Another thing to consider, NONE of the 110v dryers were much more than a joke, I went with the 240 since genset and powerpoles had that available. |
Jim in California
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 11:07 am: | |
A gallon of water weighs 8.34lbs, right?
So my calculations are:
800lbs for the trailer, EMPTY.
1,000lbs for 120gallons of water (dual 60gal). Which isn't accurate because actually I'd be transferring one to the other - but I want the safety margin of having both full in a pinch.
2 bikes at 500lbs each. (I'm a big guy but NOT into really huge bikes, they don't handle.)
300lbs for a washer/dryer combo, but let's say I do one of each (as long as they're available 110v!). 600lbs.
We're at 3400. Another couple hundred tops in tools, and I've still got a decent safety margin, or a guest bike.
So yeah, I need to be able to tow 4,000lbs tops and a trailer rated for that weight or a hair over. |
Marc Bourget
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 1:32 pm: | |
Jim,
In the past 5 years I've moved my manufacturing business twice. The really heavy things went by semi. I moved the bulk on a good quality 10,800# trailer with a well maintained Dually. While I did it without major incident, my Class "A" Driving experience contributed to that.
If you're looking at a 4K gross weight and you'll be doing "off road" hobbyist type things, I'd go for a much stronger trailer (like 150%). A few bucks now will gain you much greater serviceability later and avoid the possible interruption of your "fun time"
YMMV
Marc Bourget |
Jim in California
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 1:41 pm: | |
Yeah. Probably. I'm already thinking that a trailer rated for 6,000lbs or more won't add more than another 500lbs or less, I'll have to look up details. But it would give me the cushion I'd want. |
BrianMCI
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 8:33 am: | |
I agree with Marc, I've seen enough tweaked trailers to know that with rough service load capacity is degraded considerably. Running a trailer at 2/3 of it's 6000lbs capacity will give you a much more comfortable safety zone.
Brian |
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