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Ed Jewett (Kristinsgrandpa)

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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 12:00 am:   

Does anyone know anything about this website, and what they are doing?

www.i-want-an-avicn1.com

It is supposed to be legit, but....

Anyone have, or know of anyone with, info on it?

Inquiring minds want to know.

When you travel without a co-pilot you need all the help you can get, even if you have to pay full price.

JayJay has one that talks to you, but it just keeps talking and talking,(won't shut up) reminds me of my ex- and I can't handle that.

Ed Jewett
James Maxwell (Jmaxwell)

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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 1:54 am:   

There you go Ed, a co-pilot to make you feel right at home. At least, it's legal to throw it out the window at 70 mph (providing you don't get turned in for littering).
t gojenola

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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 5:24 am:   

I can't say about that web site, but the product is indeed legit and quite impressive. Moreover, quite a few add-ons are available including rear view camera, etc.

You can take a virtual tour of it here:

http://www.avic-n1.com/interact.asp

tg
t gojenola

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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 5:40 am:   

Also, pricey but well-rated. For a series of tests and reviews:

http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/S-iOF2M3xYD9k/reviews/200406008/pioneer_avicn1.html

tg
Jim in California

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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 11:07 am:   

From legit sources (NOT that scam site first listed!) it's going for at least $1,500.

Ow.

Still, if you think you NEED that sort of map system, fine. But if you have a laptop on board already, better to set up the right software (and a mount) for that, in my opinion.
Jim in California

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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 11:36 am:   

I wanna make something clear here: that website is such an obviously blatant scam, it was wrong to post it here. Sites designed to commit fraud are NOT safe to even visit, as the web-code can plant all manner of nasty crap.

The "product" you're "buying" is basically "how to become a spammer slimeball from hell".

Folks, listen carefully here: NOT ONE SINGLE AD THAT COMES TO YOU VIA EMAIL IS LEGIT.

OK?

Not. One.

At least 1/3rd of all spam out there is sent by "zombies". Know what a "zombie" is?

OK. Take a brand new WinXP computer fresh out of the box. Plug it into the Internet with a fast connection of some sort, and no other software, patches or protection installed. It's a verified fact that some malicious son of a bitch will have software probing for unprotected machines, they'll find yours, and they'll upload nasty garbage to it that will "take it over" and run background stuff to do whatever they want - re-send spam in the background is the most common (that PC becomes a "zombie"), followed by "watch whatever the poor user types for credit card numbers and send 'em along" types of programs.

How long on average do you think it takes for this "takeover" to happen, with the machine just sitting there unprotected?

Twenty mothableepin minutes.

http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/17/1347214&tid=172

Upshot: the Internet can be a damned dangerous place. First, if you have a potent machine on a fast wire you need to load protection stuff on it such as the latest Norton suite or similar or at least a recent Microsoft patch CD before even connecting.

Second, BE AWARE THERE ARE SCAMS. Chain mails, "pyramid marketing", it's all BS. Start with "nothing offered via EMail can be trusted" unless you like handing over half your life savings to Russian gangsters or worse.
TWO DOGS

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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 11:36 am:   

looks like some people will do anything to keep from haveing to LEARN to read a road atlas
J.B.Phillips (Jbp)

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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 12:08 pm:   

I thought a Map and C.B. would do it all. Looks like I am going to have to educate myself.
OOOOps, wait a minute I can't even post a picture so maybe I better stick to the map and C.B. thing.

J.B.
Ed Jewett (Kristinsgrandpa)

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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 1:11 pm:   

Jim in California, thanks for your opinion. I was hoping for facts. I thought about it for a while and thought maybe it was legit because he was making over a grand a unit in profit. Why take few people for a couple of hundred when you can make a bigger profit over a longer period of time.
This has been going on for some time and in all the surfing I've done I have never heard anything about a scam. Thanks for your unsolicited opinion.

Two dogs, I can read an atlas probably as good as the next guy, but can't remember all the details that well anymore. HEHEHE
Also when in heavy traffic with a 40' coach and a toad its hard to turn around. Surely a trucker such as you, can remeber such situations.
Also two dogs, it does more than navigate, or didn't you read up on what you were talking about before you posted the slur.
Thanks everyone.
Ed Jewett
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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 1:30 pm:   

Ed...
I read enough to know I damn sure don't need it...but....I also can't understand why people need the gpd thingy...well maybe fast fred needs it when he is out to sea...but...if you know where you are(what state,what town)...then all ya' have to do is look at the road atlas to tell ya' which road to take to get to where you are wanting to go...I never said I know everything about everything...but...I been back & forth a bunch of times...and...I can wake up & know what town I'm in...
niles steckbauer (Niles500)

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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 1:49 pm:   

...... the only way I know I've had a good time ..... is when I wake up and don't know what town I'm in ...... Niles
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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 1:58 pm:   

when I first started driveing...I used to write that days route on a piece of paper & put it on the dash...it would be something like ...I-10 to San Antonio....
east on loop 410 to I-37 SOUTH
37 SOUTH TO EXIT 14A
77 south to Harlingen
83 west to McAllen
all you have to write down...is THAT days travel (500 miles)
after a while...you get to where you can remember that amout of info without haveing to have the sheet of paper
Greg Roberts (Gregeagle20)

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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 3:32 pm:   

Why wouldn't have written I-10 to San Antonio....
east on loop 410 to I-37 SOUTH
37 SOUTH TO 281 to McAllen??

I would think it would be closer and also avoid that stupid 83 construction mess between Harlingen and McAllen. :-) :-) Just giving you a hard time!
CoryDane RTSII

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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 4:21 pm:   

this seems to be a topic of GPS again. Though, when mentioning "Entertainment", Only the PC with a LCD monitor (pref with a tv tuner) can offer a sort of "ALL in ONE configuration" these days. If you do it right, the PC can also show the vid of your monitor that is watching the toad....

On the CoPilot, if you use the laptop mic and speakers, it will hear noise from the rv/bus and keep responding. They recommend a headseat or earphone with a mic.
The other side of the coin, you tell it to "go to sleep" and it will remain silent until you tell it to "wake up".

I used to be on the side of the "read the Atlas" group, but the CoPilot has proven to be quite useful when you don't have to pull over to look for an alternative route as the map is on screen as you travel and always shows where you are.

This site may be helpful...

http://www.thegpsstore.com/learngps.asp
Which talks a bit about how it works.

This may be helpful as well...

The GPS Store's Guide to Automotive GPS units

This information accurate as of 01/11/2005

There are three different types of Automotive GPS products, PC/PDA based,
Multi-Purpose handheld and Stand Alone auto navigation systems.

The PC/PDA based systems like the
Garmin CF Que 1620, Navman 3450/4410/4460, ALK Co-Pilot, Garmin GPS 18 Deluxe and the DeLorme Earthmate require a PC or PDA (Palm/Windows CE device) to guide you.

The Garmin iQue 3600/3200 is the only system that is Palm system with an integrated GPS.

PC/PDA products are packages that include a GPS Receiver and mapping software. The antenna will use the PC/PDA as its source of power. The receiver will provide the GPS signal to the PC/PDA and the software will then use that information to show your current location. The software will contain detailed maps of the United States and major highways throughout Canada.

PC/PDA systems will provide vocal directions via the PC/PDA's speakers. Most of the PC/PDA systems can also re-calculate your directions if you make an incorrect turn. These systems are recommended for people that already use a Laptop or PDA regularly.

„h Delorme Earthmate & Garmin 18 Deluxe- Laptop systems that are great for a first time user or beginner. They both include advanced capabilities at a low price.

„h ALK Co-Pilot 8- Advanced laptop systems with options to route through multiple address and Microsoft Outlook integration. It also has RV friendly routing.

„h Navman 3450/4410/4460- These systems connect with a PDA device. The 4410/4460 are both Bluetooth systems(wireless). These systems are great for travel in specific region but not recommended for long trips due to limited memory capacity.

„h Garmin iQue 3600/3200- Palm device with an integrated GPS. Uses Palm OS5 and it is recommended for existing Palm users or customers who are willing to learn how to operate a Palm device.

„h Garmin CF Que 1620- The CF Que 1620 slips into the compact flash slot on a compatible pocket PC and has 64 megs of memory on board for map storage.

„h Navman PiN 100- Windows CE PDA with integrated GPS unit. Great for Pocket PC users that are looking for a navigation system

Multi Purpose Handhelds are systems that are handheld and have the ability to guide you to an address via audible beeps and on screen directions. These systems will not speak to you. In most cases they will require the purchase of additional software to have the turn-by-turn capabilities. Examples of these systems would be the Magellan Sportrak Pro, Magellan Meridian Series, the Garmin Map 60 Series, Garmin 76C Series and the GPS V Deluxe.

„h Magellan Sportrak Pro and Meridian series- These units will require the purchase of the Mapsend Direct Route Software to get turn-by-turn directions. The turn-by-turn directions will be limited to the area that you have downloaded to the unit or the SD card. These units can hold on average 1-2 states of information depending on memory size.

„h Garmin GPS V Deluxe- This system has the Mapsource City Select CD-ROM included. The City Select software will give you the secondary street level information. The GPS V Deluxe has 19 megabytes of memory for map storage. On average 19 megabytes can hold 2-3 major cities of information. The GPS V Deluxe also has a routable basemap to guide turn by turn across the country on the major highways and interstates.

„h Garmin GPSMAP 60 Series- The 60 series has the same routable base map that the GPS V Deluxe has. The 60 series does not come with the City Select software, it is an additional purchase. The Automotive Navigation kit for the 60 series will have everything that you need for adding turn-by-turn guidance. The GPS 60C and 60CS each have 56 megabytes of available memory, which can hold approximately 1-2 states of Map detail.

„h Garmin GPSMAP 76C Series- The 76C Series is similar to the 60 Series. The 76C series also has an Automotive Navigation kit. The major difference is that the 76C Series has 115 Megabytes of memory, which will hold on average 2-3 states of information.

Stand Alone Navigation systems have the ability to give verbal turn-by-turn directions without the need to be constantly connected to a PC. These systems would be the Navman iCN 510, Garmin Quest, Garmin Streetpilot III Deluxe, Garmin 276C, Navman iCN 630, Streetpilot 2610, TomTom GO, Tom Tom Go Plus, Streetpilot 2620, Magellan RoadMate 300, Lowrance iWay, Cobra Nav One 3000 and RoadMate 700. All of the Stand Alone units with the exception of the iWay 500C, Streetpilot 2620, TomTom GO Plus, Cobra Nav One 3000 and RoadMate 700 will require a PC to download detailed maps. The area of detail that can be loaded to a unit will be limited to the memory capacity of the unit or its memory card. These units will provide spoken turn-by-turn directions as well as visual prompts to any address or Point of Interest that is located in the detailed maps that have been loaded to the unit's memory.

„h Garmin Streetpilot III Deluxe- The Streetpilot III Deluxe is the entry level, turn-by-turn navigation system with a color screen and verbal directions. The unit includes 128 megabytes of memory, which holds on average 2-3 states of map detail. The Streetpilot III Deluxe uses the Garmin proprietary memory cards.

„h Navman iCN 510- The iCN 510 has a 3.5¡¨ color touch screen. The touch screen is a PDA style display that uses a stylus to enter information. An SD card is required for all map storage. A 64MB SD card will hold on average 1-2 states of information. The system includes the Navman SmartST navigation software with the 3-D view of the road ahead.

„h Garmin Quest- The Garmin Quest is the smallest and least expensive turn-by-turn system with voice guidance. The Quest is a handheld GPS with a color screen and the capabilities of the larger units. The 115 megabytes of memory will hold on average 2-3 states of detailed maps.

„h Garmin 276C- The Garmin 276C is a great dual-purpose unit. It is a marine chartplotter that with the addition of the Automotive Navigation kit becomes a full-featured turn-by-turn navigation system with verbal directions. The Automotive Navigation kit comes with the 128-megabyte card, which holds on average 2-3 states of map detail. The 276C is great for someone that wants a unit for their small boat as well as for a vehicle.

„h Navman iCN 630- The Navman iCN 630 has a beautiful color display. It has 64 megabytes on board, which will hold approximately 1 state of detailed map information and can accept SD cards for additional map storage. The Navman iCN 630 features the SmartST software that includes a true 3D view of the road ahead.

„h TomTom GO- Small, compact system with a 3.5¡¨ display. The GO has a touch screen display. The Unique Assisted Satellite Navigation system will allow the system to keep you position changing even when you are in a tunnel. The TomTom GO comes with a 256-megabyte SD card that can hold on average 3-4 states of detailed information.

„h Garmin Streetpilot 2610- The 2610 is an updated version of the Garmin Streetpilot III Deluxe. The 2610 has a touch screen display and also has a remote control as well. It has a much faster processor than the Garmin Streetpilot III Deluxe. The unit comes with a 128 megabytes compact flash card, which holds on average 2-3 states of map detail. You can use standard compact flash cards if you desire more memory.

„h Magellan RoadMate 300- The RoadMate 300 has a large high-resolution touch screen display. The RoadMate 300 has a fast processor for quicker route calculations. The RoadMate 300 comes with 110 megabytes of memory built in, which will hold on average 2-3 states of information. The RoadMate 300 will accept SD cards for additional map storage. The RoadMate operating system is based off of the popular Neverlost system making the unit very easy to use.

„h Lowrance iWay 500C- The iWay 500C has a large 5¡¨, touch screen, color display making it easy to view. The iWay has a 20GB hard drive with 10GB that holds detailed maps for the U.S. and 10GB that is open to store MP3 files. The iWay 500C comes well accessorized.

„h TomTom GO Plus- Small, compact system with a 3.5¡¨ display. The GO Plus has a touch screen display. The Unique Assisted Satellite Navigation system will allow the system to keep you position changing even when you are in a tunnel. The entire detailed mapping database for the United States is preloaded and Canada is included on CD-ROM for you to transfer the maps

„h Garmin Streetpilot 2620- The 2620 is just like the 2610 but it does not require any PC downloading for map information. It has a hard drive that stores all of the map information on the unit.

„h Cobra Nav One 3000- Large 5¡¨ color touch screen display. All detailed maps of the lower 48 United States and Metro-Canada loaded to a hard drive. Internal gyroscope keeps your position moving when you do not have satellite reception.

„h Magellan RoadMate 700- The RoadMate 700 has the same operating system and fast processor as the RoadMate 300. The RoadMate 700 stores the entire street level database on a micro drive in the system itself. That means there is not map loading to do with the RoadMate 700.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 4:22 pm:   

very different routes...number one,,,281 sucks...a service call of 100 miles is different than a service call of 20 miles...281 is BARREN...nowhere to pull off...no scenery..no help...rest areas always closed...I did 281 once...will not do it again...ain't that right Don...
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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 9:43 pm:   

Checking mapping software, I found the coolest program I've seen in a long time. With this, I'm not sure I'd need GPS.

http://keyhole.com
James Maxwell (Jmaxwell)

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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 10:37 pm:   

I heard a good one the other day; don't know if it is true or not, since I heard it on radio station. Seems a guy in Oklahoma Cty. has filed suit against Cadillac and NavStar because the system in his Escalade did not inform him about the 18-wheeler in the right lane just ahead of the right turn it told him to make.
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Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 12:29 am:   

that's the same guy that put it on cruise control & got in the back seat
CoryDane RTSII

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Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 3:27 am:   

Jack W
Don't start investing to replace the GPS yet.
They don't have good coverage yet only on some major cities and out lying areas no coverage at all.
Perhaps you should take a "wait and see" stance.

  cd

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