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marc schlabach
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 6:10 pm: | |
Can anyone tell me the name of the product available at walmart to add to the oil to slow down leaks and consumption ? I know some of you guys at bussin 2005 talked about it. Thanks for the info. Marc |
John that newguy
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 9:47 pm: | |
I don't know if this is the same product, but.....
When our Caravan stopped smoking, I knew it needed oil. So I've
used about fourteen plastic bottles of their "Oil Treatment" product
on the beat up Caravan. Now I have to open the blasted hood
and manually check the dipstick to see if it's low or not.
It comes in a small blue plastic bottle and is usually next to the
"STP" product in the nearly same-sized bottle. It probably took
a gallon to unsmoke the van.... the dipstick's tough to pull out
on a cool day.. make sure your battery's charged.. It's like the
old "motor hiney" errrr... "honey" that they once sold in all the
parts stores. ..........could probably pump gear lube in there and
do as well.. It still leaks, but it's so thick that the neighbor picks
it up, figuring their dog left it.. |
TWODOGS (Twodogs)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 9:58 pm: | |
I always have used STP...two or three ...usually replace oil lost with STP....run her a while,put in one stp....run some more add stp....never had a bearing failure....NEVER |
BrianMCI
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 12:13 am: | |
There is a product that is made by hydrotex called Essentialube that has been known to stop leaking seals... at least those that aren't to far gone.
Thickeners are okay and all, but you can put some life back into your seals you are better off...
I used to be secptical, but over 20 years I've seen enough examples to believe it works wonders In the fuel as well as the oil.
Brian |
Geoff (Geoff)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 8:32 am: | |
You want to add something to create sludge and deposits in your Detroit Diesel? I don't recommend it, it's not some old beater car engine.
--Geoff
'82 RTS CA |
Johnny
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 9:16 am: | |
I've seen oil stop-leak work on several cars (most recently, rear main seal leak on a 1986 Caprice with a 4.3 V6).
I wouldn't put them in a DD, though. |
Frank Allen
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 11:03 am: | |
my experience with stp has not been good, had a cadillac , stp was added at oil changes, after a few yrs the stp was all in the oil pan, had to pull the pan to get it out, a real mess , would not recomend it for anything, i know there are many that beleive in it but not me.
Frank Allen
4106 |
TWODOGS (Twodogs)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 11:30 am: | |
only add stp to a running engine |
jimmci9 #2
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 12:40 pm: | |
i would not use any kind of oil thickener to any engine i cared about.... fix the leaks....the only engine oil treatment i'd even think about using is a BG product called MOA... its a lubricity-enhancer... and it doesn't turn your waste oil into hazardous waste...like other products.... |
J.B.Phillips (Jbp)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 1:37 pm: | |
I might add to Two dogs comment on STP. Add ONLY to a WARM engine and a LITTLE bit at a time. If you don't it will clump on the bottom of the pan and may (As it happened to me) block the oil pick up. It is a great product if used carefully.
J.B. |
Bill K.
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 3:23 pm: | |
When ever I use STP which is mainly in gear box's or old style tranmissions, I always heated the stp, and when using in a eng. which I have not done in years I would also heat the stp on a stove burner how this is when the cans where still tin. and I also keep the eng running at oper. temp. and added slowly. |
gusc
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 4:14 pm: | |
STP is to thicken the oil when you have worn bearings. A little bit is enough.
Oil leak stop products swell the seals and, I think, are mostly solvents, so a lot of that into the same oil is probably not a good idea.
New guy John,
If your Caravan is a 3.0 Liter V6 like mine the smoke is caused by worn intake valve seals. They harden and allow oil to be sucked into the intake and make smoke. This happens mostly on first start of the day or when going down long hills at no throttle. If the stop leak stopped yours
I can't really tell if you used oil thickener or stop leak but I hope you didn't use 14 bottles of thickener, that stuff is like molasses.
Mine leaks a lot too but I don't worry about this too much. Mitsubishies seem to do this when they get old. |
Mike (Busone)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 5:29 pm: | |
I had a 94 Mitsubishi pickup that burned and leaked oil like a DD. I added some of that walmart goop and it made the visable smoke stop. I did not want to get a smog ticket. The truck had over 150k on it and I knew the engine needed to be overhauled. The sludge also made the lifter noise quiet down a lot. I would not put it in an engine I care about though.
Mike |
gusc
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 7:13 pm: | |
Mike,
Maybe I better try some of this in my Caravan since it has almost 170k miles.
What is the name of the walmart goop and how much did you use? Was it a 4 or 6 cyl? |
Mike (Busone)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 7:55 pm: | |
It was a 2.4l 4 banger. It was the store brand of the STP stuff. It has a consistency of jello, I had a hard time getting it out of the bottle. It made the visable smoke stop but I could still smell the oil burning. |
gusc
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 8:12 pm: | |
Mike,
Thanks, I'll give it a try. |
John that newguy
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 8:40 pm: | |
gusc-
I think everything starts to leak, the older it gets...
I added two bottles of Walmart's "oil treatment" each time it
needed oil. There's probably a lot more than 14 bottles in there
now. The ratio is probably 1 part to 50, as far as oil vs additive.
It runs quiet! It doesn't smoke. The paint's off the hood and roof,
the transmission leaks like hell and whines more than my neighbor's
wife. The brake rotors and pads need replacing... My parrot
ate most of the front seats and steering wheel... The headliner
hangs with more bulges than a nude Ted Kennedy. It's ready
for the scrap heap. It just doesn't pay to put anything into it
anymore than perhaps a dozen bottles of Walmart's 88 cent
per bottle additive. |
Mike (Busone)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 10:01 pm: | |
My old pickup was the same way. It was about shot so I did not care if the stuff would kill the engine in a few more thousand miles. I ran the truck until the day the tranny started leaking really bad. Then I sold it to some kid that wanted to lower it and all that. |
John that newguy
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 10:28 pm: | |
By the time I'm through with mine, they'd have to lower it
into the ground.... make it a planter, maybe.. |
Vin Prew (Billybonz)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 11:09 pm: | |
I had an 89 Mustang with a 2.3L, came from the factory with bum valve seals. I had talked to others who had similar problems with this year engine.
I used straight 30 weight oil and it helped(10W40 in winter). At about 200K the exhaust manifold cracked. After I replaced that the car would hardly run, catalytic converter was plugged so replace that.
I drove the car until 275K or so, smokin' all the way. The only additive I ever used was a few caps of Mystery Oil in the fuel tank. |