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RC Bishop (128.123.88.5)

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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2001 - 10:39 pm:   

I'm told this is a different breed. Not many made.
Anybody out there have one? I have a 1964 49 Passenger Cummins 220 turbo, 10 speed Fuller. One owner (before me). Peculiarities perhaps, idiosyncrasyies could be, but definitely a work horse. Lots of possibilities I should think. And we are underway with a conversion!

Let's talk.
jdexsquid (216.175.68.12)

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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2001 - 10:42 pm:   

Have any pics? I own a 69 Supercoach and up to my neck in the conversion!
Mark R. Obtinario (Cowlitzcoach) (206.163.13.42)

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Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2001 - 9:50 am:   

Is your Crown a highway Crown with the stainless corrugated siding and the slider windows?

While the stainless and sliders are a little different from the school coaches, the basic design is the same.

As to peculiarities and idiosyncrasyies, the hardest items to find are the parts and pieces that are unique to the NHH engines. Most Cummins dealers eyes cross and go fuzzy when you say horizontal.

West Coach in Chino, CA can usually get anything you might need for your Crown, particularly the stuff that is unique to Crowns and NHH engines.

Otherwise, everything is pretty straight forward and is available from your local NAPA store.

Good luck and happy trails.

Mark O.
RC Bishop (128.123.88.19)

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Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2001 - 10:23 pm:   

Hey,Mark and the fellow who has the '69.

And thanx for the quick responses. I have some pictures of the original bus, and plenty of photos that haven't yet been put on the computer.

The fluted siding is Aluminum as is the top. The structure is steel. Windows are slanted (see Calling all Crowns) tinted and both pieces slide. Silver trim in and out. BIG windows.

I've managed to find most everything including all but the most important crown screw driver. West Coach says they just aren't available. IT is the number 8 size. Fits all the screws in the drip rail. Vice grips are a time consuming alternative, I've found, but managed to remove all the inside and half the exterior with them. Glad to finally have the three piece set of drivers, however.

Am just getting started on the PROJECT. Inside is stripped except for the floor (1 1/4 " tongue and grove Marine Plywood--Im going to leave it in place). Have three windows and the drip rail on the door side out, the cap loosened about 6 inches up and new rigid insulation in the outmost section of the roof.

Nothing insurmountable so far. Crown head screws, I'll never forget!
Steve 80 Crown Atomic (168.191.180.140)

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Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2001 - 4:03 am:   

Hey RC,

I believe your coach is a stock Crown Custom Coach. Mine may be a further modification of your design.

Anyone else got a highway Crown with rear-engine, D.D. 8V71, Allison HT740, 40ft by 8ft, factory raised roof, pure tag axle, 8 wheels, 333 cubic ft of baggage bays, etc?

I've posted a few photos on the web at...

http://home.earthlink.net/~gau5aa/


Steve
R C Bishop (128.123.88.26)

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Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2001 - 7:50 pm:   

Hey Steve....

The 1964 Crown Highway Coach that I have is as originally ordered by the previous owner, as I understand it. I'm told there were very few manufactured. My serial Number, for what ever it is worth is 34811.

The bus has 10 wheels, both rear axles drive (true tandem interlock), amidships engine. Haven't measured the Cubic footage of baggage space, but there is an abundance. The GVWR is 38,500, unladen 25,860 from the factory. We've reduced that considerably due to stripping. It has air brakes, jake, air suspension, New Michelin radials on the rear and New Firestones front (uh-OOOOO) 12r22.5.

No exceptions from AZ DOT, as of this past spring. Transmission is a Fuller RTO-910...up to 11 miles to the gallon registered by the previous owner. Not bad for an old timer. I have all maintenance records "from day one", so they say. This bus is 74.5 inches from top of floor to ceiling as manufactured...that is the major problem. Fortunately, it's not a real consideration for us. We are both under 6 feet. I'll check your web site.
R.C.Bishop (128.123.88.21)

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Posted on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 10:38 am:   

Hey, Steve... after looking at your pics, your bus looks exactly like ours with the exception the roof has been raised, and of course the middle baggage compartment doesn't exist. On ours, that is access, left and right side to the engine. Near as I can figure, they added the additional height at floor level or thereabouts. There doesn't seem to be any extra "space" at window level or above. Nice bus.

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