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| Captain Ron (Captain_ron)
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I want to remove my bus air as it needs freon and I realy don't want it any how. I want to remove the front unit behind the batteries and hopefully gain some more storage space. and also remove the drive shaft, bell housing and compressor.does any of this have any value? or is it just throw away? the compressor is a trane. | ||
| John that newguy Rating: N/A |
Some smaller bus companies will pay for the compressor, etc. if it's in decent shape. Make some calls before you dump them. A guy at the park (here) sold his compressor for $900 to the company he got the bus from.. They took it out... Before you take the entire thing out, Ron... Keep in mind that (on most buses) the coolant lines feed the front defrosters and the fans provide heat circulation.. I'm still debating the removal of my system. The undercarriage ductwork will never be clean.. But the amount of air circulation it can provide would be difficult to install as well as the manufacturer had. The radiator core alone, can be worth a few bucks. Salvage from he entire conversion process can produce enough $$ to pay for some of the conversion itself. I didn't have a place to store the aluminum from the racks, etc. The guy that took it away got over $200 for the junk. | ||
| Chuck Newman (Chuck_newman)
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Ron, Let us know the gory details when you remove it. I'm going to pull mine out this Spring. My only concern is the compressor. Is this removed with some type of motor sling or do I need to get 2 or 3 hulks from the local gym. | ||
| Chris Christensen (Chris4905)
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A few years ago I removed the heating (except for defroster unit) and air unit(s) from my 4905. I did it by myself but it sure would have been eaiser with another nut's help. The only really heavy part was the compressor but it can be taken out by one person. Although I wouldn't want to carry it very far. Nimco offered to buy my compressor, a/c fan motors, and I believe the condensor. But by the time I paid for shipping to the east coast (from CA at the time) it would have been a wash. Chris Christensen 1974 4905 Eagle, Idaho | ||
| John Jewett (Jayjay)
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Ron, use a wide board and slide the compressor out onto the ground. I added shelves, then used the compartment as a place to store hydraulic jacks, electric cables and water hoses. The u-joints on the drive shaft for the compressor are the same as your front steering gear beneath the driver's seat. (Same as a late 70's Chevy sedan) My 4 cyl.diesel genset went in where the condenser fan was, and the heat pump is in the old evaporator/blower bay on the right side. Remove the batteries to the next bay back, and when they go bad, change to Group 31's, since you won't need the high amperage capacity of the 8D's once you get rid of the 86 amp condenser fan, and the two 37 amp (each)evap. fans. Try to retain your Battery Master Disconnect that is in the evap bay. You can remove the recirculating pump too,(conenser bay) but be sure and tie the 1 inch copper lines back together, so you maintain the defrost/drivers heat system. Use a piece of radiator hose and worm gear clamps to make the splice. While you are digging around in there, check your 4/0 battery cables where they run in the service tunnel on the bay ceilings, as the insulation is prone to cracking. The paper wrapping beneath the rubber coating turns acidic with age, causing the copper to corrode and swell/split the rubber, thus the cracks. Use 4/0 welding cable and good quality (plated) splices and lugs from and electrical contractors supply if necessary. Good Luck, and get in touch when you get back to Ft.Myers Cheers...JJ | ||
| Captain Ron (Captain_ron)
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I'm thinking once I get that front unit out that would be a perfect place for a generator since the door on the drivers side is vented. My battery disconect does not work. I will get to that later. I'm gonna leave the batteries where they are because I have a slide out tool box in the main bay and thats also where I keep my P.A system. I want all the space I can get in that bay for all my stuff that's use alot. I like your Idea about the shelves in the compartment where the compressor is. I also have some useable space at the end of my fuel tank on the drivers side I want to put to good use. Would you advise against moving the batteries over there? I know it will take alot of cable but then I can get to the rest of that new space I'll create by removing the AC. I'd leave the disconect where it is and repair or replace it. I replaced some of the battery cables in the battery box area already. | ||
| RJ Long (Rjlong)
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Captain - Several GMC owners of 4106 - 4905 coaches have moved their start batteries to the compartment vacated by the coach A/C compressor once that system's been removed. Shelving has to be fabricated for them (best I've seen were roll-outs), and IIRC, three group 31s will fit. Coach battery disconnect can also be relocated here, too. Makes for a very short cable run to the starter! I have to respectfully disagree with JJ about removing the circulating pump from the heating system, as it helps provide HOT water to the defroster system. Check the electrical schematic, and possibly re-wire the pump so it only comes on when you utilize the defroster. You can also use a "cherry picker" to hoist the compressor out, know anyone who's a hot-rodder or auto restoration chap? They might have one you could use for a nominal fee (a CD, or a six-pack?) It will be real hard to find someone to take the Trane compressor off your hands because of it's age, though here's a suggestion: You might try contacting Welch Industries outside Atlanta GA. He specializes in coach A/C, and may have a use for it. But here's the other thought: Your 4905 also has an A/C evaporator integrated into the dash defrost assembly. Welch made a kit to install a standard GM A-6 A/C compressor driven off the same PTO as the stock Trane on your coach. Hang an automotive-type condensor on the street side of your radiator, and voila, dash A/C while running down the road!! HTH, RJ PD4106-2784 Fresno CA | ||
| FAST FRED Rating: N/A |
The old AC compartment can handle some batts , BUT the area would need extra ventilation and insulation from the nearby engine heat. I found it a nice place for the various "Power Hoses" (as a friend called them) with enough room for a floor safe dropped in from the bedroom floor above.And the location fits the usual location of the Power Pole in most campgrounds. What works BEST is to use every avilable inch of space for somthing usefull, there is little room for wasted space in ANY coinversion. FAST FRED | ||
| Jim (Jim_in_california)
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"Coinversion"? Good name for an expensive bus  . | ||
| Marc Bourget Rating: N/A |
Yep, some people convert a lot of "coin" in construction a conversion! LOL !!! | ||
| Mike M Rating: N/A |
Whatever you put in that compartment, make sure you can take it out. It is near impossible to get at the top nut that holds your muffler in place from anywhere other than this area. | ||
| doctor al Rating: N/A |
Capt. I might be interested in the drivers side a/c electric motor down. I guess mine is doa. you can e-mail me direct if you'd prefer. doctoral55@hotmail.com | ||
| Captain Ron (Captain_ron)
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Thanks Mike, I usualy put removable plywood floors in those small areas like that so I'll be sure to do so in there. there will also be a panel as to box every thing in to keep things from falling on highway so I don't think I'll have a heat problem. besides the radiator fan is right there. | ||
| Rob King Rating: N/A |
Cap I removed the rear auxillary air, compressor, condenser, fans, etc. from my prevost this summer. I took the bus to service center and "sold" the r-12 to them for $60 above their labor cost to extract it then took digital pics and placed a $20 ad on eBAY under Buses section. Sold the stuff to a charter bus man from Minnesota for $1800. The Carrier compressor I had took two "good" men to move it but the rest of the stuff could be moved on a two wheel dolly very easily. Hope this helps. Good luck Rob 91 Prevost | ||
| Captain Ron (Captain_ron)
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Dr.Al, let me know exactly what you want and where your located and make me an offer. I'm in wisconsin till the end of the month then I'll be headed for Fla. so if your on the way I could deliver or meet you some where. | ||
| jerry ray breeden (Jerry_breeden)
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I have a 59 4104 former Greyhound with VCH heating and McGRAW air conditioning. It has 5000 hrs on unit. Is it worth using? If so I need any information available on this unit. My bus manual only gives me a wiring diagram. Engine is a 4cyl diesel. Thank you very much. |