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Ernest Overton (Blackexpress)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 11:42 pm: | |
Hello all I have been lurking on the board for a year now and just bought a GMC T6H4521 converted off of the e-place. Owner says it has a 3 speed auto allison with a 6v71 also it was overhauled 80,000 mile ago he is the second owner since new. This bus also has no second door. Other than the cargo bays what is the main difference from this transit and a 4106? This is my third bus I sold the other 2 a 1970 converted Carpenter Transit bus and a 1980 unconverted Gmc 4905 with auto. Thank for listening
Ernest |
Gelecamion (Gelecamion)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 12:08 am: | |
welcome to this world post a picture of your bus if you ever wander to AZ send me a email
good that how i got involve in this forum just by looking for some help now i met one of the guys and we keep in touch |
Vin (Billybonz)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 12:35 am: | |
WHAHOOOO, another Fishbowl owner, I have a T6H4523. Depending on what has been changed...if it's bascially stock, 95 gal fuel tank, 125 gal was an option. I think an 06 has 140 gal. Transits can have lower top speed being built mainly for intercity use. On the plus side...they are great for getting around in tight places with a bit shorter wheelbase. Also the ride is better in a parlor coach,IMHO.
http://coachinfo.com/AllAboutBuses/GMC_Info.html#anchor is a good site with pix of GMC coaches as well as many other brands.
Good luck with your Newlook!
Bones |
Brian Brown (Fishbowlbrian)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 2:03 am: | |
Welcome aboard! I'm on my third bus, too. I won't bore you with the details, but I did/ do have a Fishbowl (2nd bus) AND an 4106 (third time's a charm bus... knock on wood).
I'd love to see some pics of your bus. I gave up on trying to find time to finish the Fishbowl conversion. It's a great bus to drive, though. Mine has the VS2 tranny. It can go about 80mph. Do you know your tranny model?
NewLooks and '06 are different beasts, although they may share some parts. They're made for different industries: transits and highway busses. Transits have lots of air tanks and big brakes. Lower down, bigger rear ends. And my Fishbowl is a 40'er, so it's probably apples/oranges to compare the two. Both of mine have the 8v71. I've never driven a 6 cylinder, but it's probably just a bit more doggy.
I do LOVE having bays on the '06, I must say. But mostly, I'm just glad it's converted!
Brian Brown
Longmont, CO USA
PD4105-1175:
http://www.browncowpro.com/bus/4106/photos.htm
T8H-5305-021:
http://www.browncowpro.com/bus/ |
CoryDaneRTS
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 4:40 am: | |
(" Other than the cargo bays what is the main difference from this transit and a 4106? ")
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hey, welcome to the board.
I don't know if you have the answer about the difference between the Parlor type bus and Transit.
The big difference for me is height/storage.
The Parlor bus has the bays under the floor, some around 3' in height vs transit with 21",some with none.
The parlor bus has a flat floor front to back, some have a slight angle towards the rear. The Transit has wheel wells to build around. Not usually too much a concern to place a bed over in the rear and a couch or furniture over in front.
The Parlor bus has a lot of storage in the bay areas. These will usually have all the water tanks, gensets etc stored below floor area. The additional space has been used for some very ingeneous ideas such as a climb down bedroom area for older children. The Transit Bays, if available is used for air tanks, fuel tanks etc, and much of the remaining space us used for water tanks, genset etc. Some space may remain for storage, depends on the Transit you are talking about. It is not uncommon for tanks to be stored above floor, hidden by the cabenetry,such as found in RV units because of this limited storage area.
The Parlor bus may, or may not need a roof raise for better ceiling height during the conversion. This is because passengers are sitting most of the travel. The higher the Roof, the more you must be aware of what you can put up there, such as air cons, antennas etc. The large area of the Parlor bus will have a great deal of wind resistance in travel mode. Transits usually have 6 foot to 6 foot 8 inches of height since passenger get on and off throughout its travel. This may put the Transit roof around 11 foot or so high. Allowing for space for the air con and antennas. The lower height, and some manufacturer design, makes some transit buses look sleek and allows some relief from wind resistance.
As mentioned above, the Parlor bus is geared for Highway speeds. The Transit can come in two flavors, Highway or city gears.
I have not seen a parlor bus with a rear door.
Transits may or may not have the rear door, most have them. Most people will fill them in. Some have kept the rear access if it can fit in the all powerful layout planning.
Most of these items are well known.
Most else, well a bus is a bus. They both should handle alike, ride may vary to manufacturer of bus. With the exception of the Transit wheel wells, the floor plans can look remarkably similar. One big difference with the Transit would be the necessary storage space designed in the interior spaces, since there is limited storage under the floor in the bays.
If you look at them both, they seem to offer a good conversion depending on use and how they were converted. Both can be as comfortable as being home. Much like an RV but built like a Steel cage, not wood.
Lots of similarities, lots of differences, lots of good fun. AND a HECK of a lot of work to convert. BUt when they are done, Oh Boy, what you have got there! My! My! My! What a ride.
cd |
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 1:06 pm: | |
I too am a fishbowl owner (1961, 4517)and love the experience. Obviously, a fishbowl is a signficantly different animal than other models. I love the fact that I have learned about buses, gotten comfortable around such big things and met a number of wonderful people without a signficant financial investment. Now that I have terminal bus nut fever, I will look for new challenges and perhaps a newer model. Good luck and if I can help, just let me know!
Grant
Sacramento,CA |
Brian Brown (Fishbowlbrian)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 1:41 pm: | |
Wow. Nice writeup, CD! You've covered most of the bases of transit vs. parlor coach right there.
I would like to add that my '06 does have 6" or so tall wheelwells... at least in the front. I'm assuming they're in the back, also, just covered with built-ins.
Unlike Eagles, MCIs and later GMCs like Buffalos, the '04s and '06s are pretty short for a highway bus, and have fairly short bays... only about 25" to 29" clear height in there. 200 cubic feet or so. The Fishbowl has no bays, but a lot more headroom. Maybe 6" or so. My Fishie is also 102" wide vs. 96" for most older highway busses. So, between the extra width and headroom, a transit can feel pretty spacious inside.
Scott Whitney, IIRC, converted a transit and built an ingenious roof rack with hoist that provides LOTS of storage that counteracts being "bayless". Likewise, if you can get past the gearing and storage issues with transits, they can make for fine conversions.
BB |
Robert Wood (Bobwoodsocal)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 11:00 pm: | |
Welcome to the board Ernest! Bob |
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