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Gerald Brock (Gerald)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 2:08 pm: | |
Has anyone ever built a slide-out on the MCI-8?
Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks |
RANDY L SANDERS
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 3:22 pm: | |
Very difficult as I found out talking to Gary at B&B coach at Las Vegas. Call him at 1-702-4415. He can explain it.
randy |
RANDY L SANDERS
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 3:24 pm: | |
Call Gary at B&B Coach. 1-702-873-4415.I talked to him about my mc7. It's very difficult.
Randy |
Bill moldenhauer (Hotrodbill)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 6:50 pm: | |
http://www.customslideouts.com/
Don't know anything persnal about them but have been by there shop many times |
Sojourner (Jjimage)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 10:02 pm: | |
Hi…I am re-posting about side-out of the pass.
I have done (always open to learn) many home works about slide-out project.
Monocoup body cost more than trusses (bridge) type to install slide-out..
MCI-5, 7, 8, 9, 10 relied on skin (monocoup) for frame integrities.
Not sure about DL4500 (my memory?) however all EL, E4500, F3500 MCI are SS (stainless steel) tubing framed. Skins are only for covering.
All Eagle coach is trusses with mild steel tubing.
Prevost H3, later series are trusses with SS tubing.
All GM intercity buses are relied on skin (monocoup) for frame integrities.
It depend what bus you have will depend how much cost or work to achieve your goal.
Here one that can give all the answer your needs about slide-out.
http://www.morrisonsvipcoach.com/construction.html
About todays post link http://www.customslideouts.com/
I would be very careful because in their website regard to “Bus” name listed under photo of stick & staple motorhome.
Truck chassis frame under home is easier to add slide-out. Because no add serious framing needed. I believe they are newly slide-out builder.
I would suggest talk to Paul Morrison. He is a no-nonsense friend to chat.
I am not affiliated with them.
I believe Paul has done more than anyone for installing slide-out in all make of coaches and trailers. Plus he is very well acknowledgeable to redone or install new interior of coaches.
He will give you the most practical advice using HWH system.
HWH slide-out system are only install by HWH or anyone one of four on their list;
http://www.hwhcorp.com/shellconv.html
Remember they only do new coaches, however Paul Morrison wills do almost all aged of coaches.
They are factory qualify to install their product to warranty.
HWH will not sell their slide-out system anyone, including my self.
HWH make several version of slide-out mechanism.
Another company use cable version which in time will cause problem due to cable stressing. I like the mechanic of moving slide out however doesn’t seem reliable.
I have background experience with steel cable and it use for its practical purpose.
However if you want do your own under-taking task, and then read on.
And why I am not afraid to under taking this “slide-out” project;
I am retired General Motor fabricator, build-up prototypes and concept cars.
I have done much research to do my slide-out on Sojourner (74 MCI-8).
It widen 102” X 43 ˝ ft. with totally new surround frame of 1 ˝ steel tubing (some stain-less steel).
My frame design is truss type which doesn’t require skin to be integrities of the structure. It consist several diagonal brace and webbing inside corners.
If you decide to go for this major transformation, be sure you have engineering supports to OK your design for practical strength & weight. Another word not to over or under kill design to build.
Welcome any question or suggestions.
NOT MINE but great site to learn about Gumpy's MCI photos of bare framing & modified works.
Main page;http://www.gumpydog.com/bus/index.htm
Frame;http://www.gumpydog.com/bus/MC9_WIP/Structural/Reframing_The_Sides/reframing_the_sides.htm
FWIW
Sojourn for Christ, Jerry |
Tim (Timkar)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 8:09 pm: | |
Take a look at some of the slide outs here, check other buses... MC5....No affiliation just found the site...
http://www.mciconversions.com/ |
CoryDaneRTS
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 7:37 am: | |
One conversion Idea I had seen was a "fold out".
After you figure out the frame integrities, you can consider the fold out tecnique.
there was a fellow experimenting with it, and he had design pics but I could not find them to show you, so I try to explain.
CLOSED, his floor plan was more or less like a normal none slide/fold out conversion. Only exception was he placed a moveable table and chairs in this location next to the adaptable wall.
When he needed more space, he could fold up the window to act as roof, and fold down the wallsection which acted as floor( I think the floor was supported by cables on the ends)
The side walls had two folds, one for side wall, one for outer wall, both met in the middle. the side walls supported the roof.
All latched together one way or another and then the table and chairs were moved in clearing more space in the conversion.
I might have it wrong, the top and bottom may have been the double hinged spots, which would make sense if you had a long section to fold out.
The drawings looked quite do-able and eliminated the problematic hydraulic and cable systems.
As long as the bus integrity was good, you were just filling a hole where the original wall was and because the cable supported the floor, there were not movable beams or supports from under the floor.
The Wothellizat, a conversion in Austrailia, uses a similar system for the rear deck which folds up, but the bedroom also folds up for use and the bath room uses a unique fold out wall (to the interior) to create room for the necessary room.
I tried to find some pics of the Wothellizat, bear with me, his site has changed so I picked a couple fast pages below.........
http://www.robgray.com/in_the_press/graphics/cm_1.jpg
http://www.robgray.com/in_the_press/graphics/cm_2.jpg
http://www.robgray.com/in_the_press/graphics/forbes_ad.jpg
Below, the stair "steps" were engineered to always be level, whether all the way down or half way down. Good shot of the deck, the bedroom is that hump over the driver area, folded down.
http://www.robgray.com/index.htm |
CoryDaneRTS
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 7:53 am: | |
OOPS
I mis-spoke.
The Wothahellizat rear deck is supported by the railing, which folds up from the floor.
The stair is supported by cable (and an electric winch).
I found these other shots on his site
go to the bottom, click on "go to the photo galleries"
then look for the vehicle
There are two choices,
Best of Wothahellizat (10 photos)
Wothahellizat (137 photos)
(RobGrays site does not allow for direct links and all his pics are his property)
http://www.robgray.com/grayoutdoors/index.htm |
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