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captain ron (Captain_ron)

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Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 8:31 pm:   

I'm thinking about buying a front cap for my 4905 and just puting it on over my existing front.then taking out the window and using that area for some recording and stereo equiptment. do I need to put in some suport structure or after it is secured properly will it will be strong enough? also if I decide to do it the way it's suposed to be done is it a big job?
Don/TX

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Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 9:16 pm:   

I think you would be very disappointed if you mount the cap and do not take out the structure. You retain the head bumper, and can hardly use the space up there. If you do an R&M cap, you would not have to do anything other than take out the windows, no support structure needed. Most who have done this were disappointed with the results.
I can suggest an alternative, you CAN just cut the front part of the top out and raise it to the same height as the rest of the bus. Simple steel or aluminum sheet will fill in the space created on the outside. Really looks swell that way, AND you save a bundle on the cap price (you also get to retain the destination window too, nice for personal signs.)
James Maxwell (Jmaxwell)

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Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 11:10 pm:   

Like Don, I would get rid of the head-bumping, scalp remover. If GM were still in the bus business and built something like that today, they would have a never ending string of lawsuits to deal with from people claiming permanent brain damage.
captain ron (Captain_ron)

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Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 12:51 am:   

Don can you give me a little more detail? if I understand you right I would basicaly lift the front part of the roof to the same hight as rest of roof and patch in the front. how much structure is in that area? 2 reasons I want to do this I like the look and I have a couple leaks in the window and in the marker lights.
Cliff (Floridacracker)

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Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 8:31 am:   

Ron,

Check out Randy & Sue Schreifels 4905 on the "Conversions in Progress" on BNO's homepage or http://www.utbiz.com/4905/.

Randy raised his roof but the general concept is the same. He has a lot of pictures of his structure.

I am putting front and rear caps on my bus.

Cliff
75-4905A-1160
Sojourner (Jjimage)

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Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 10:05 am:   

Caution; always add diagonals framing under front cap to it's rectangular framing.

Otherwise your gambling for loosen or torn rivet holes in around fiberglass cap.

If otherwise riveted metal roof continue to w/s frame is it self diagonal effect.

FWIW

Sojourn for Christ, Jerry
Don/TX

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Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 8:50 am:   

Yeah James, just look at what happened to me! You got it right Ron. Several have been done that way with nice results. I have some pic somewhere, but too disorganized to dig them out. One 4905 was cover/center on Bus Conversions Mag a couple years ago even, one that I had been personally aquainted with. As a DIY project, the cost was zero of course. Most of all, I like the looks much better than them darned R&M caps I used that make a classic GMC look almost like an (ugh) Eagle
TWODOGS (Twodogs)

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Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 11:56 am:   

AHHHHHH EAGLE.....the magic word....
Don/TX

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Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 2:13 pm:   

Well what I was REALLY trying to say was it makes a great looking bus look like an ugly (and foreign) Eagle. If you wanted a Belgium look and crappy ride, you could just go to Belgium I suppose, or Mexico, or wherever they happen to have laid down and died at. Maybe there will be a new bus board soon for "orphan buses".
Oh, by the way, I saw NO indication of Eagle activity at their old Brownsville facility when I was there last weekend.
(You who know me know I am just kidding of course, I love ALL buses, even those foreign ones classified as orphans and bastards!)
TWODOGS (Twodogs)

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Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 3:02 pm:   

Browsville ain't no foreign country....well...it might be .....to yankees....
Brian (Bigbusguy)

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Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 12:38 am:   

If I was to raise the roof I would do it like Randy & Sue Schreifels 4905 did . Now I would not have put that much time a money in a 4905.
I dont see any up dates on the 4905 do they still have it? Last time I checked they still could not get the windsheilds to fit back in some thing was twisted or bent.

Brian 4905 Klamath Falls Oregon

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