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michael bray (Artexpress)

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Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 12:34 am:   

We are converting our 1988 bluebird (36 pass.) into a children's art studio. Has anyone performed a similar conversion? We are looking at putting in a low 30" by 9.5' table for the kids, with a bench on each side. One bench is under the windows, going over the wheel well. The bench on the other side ends up roughly in the middle where the runner is (what runs down the centre between where the seats used to be). Under the windows on the other side, we'll have a counter/storage at about 25" wide and about 7' long. Looking for any input or similar experiences with such a conversion.
James Maxwell (Jmaxwell)

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Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 2:00 am:   

Are you making any provisions for toilet, heat, cooling, electricity, seating. If a toilet, you need water. If you heat, you need propane (which involves a whole lot of safety issues). Lights and such require an electrical system (and some more safety issues). Beyond gutting the bus and putting in some tables, counters, and benches for seating, what are you're "conversion" plans since just those items alone does not fit with the concept of conversion as this forum interprets the word.
michael bray (Artexpress)

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Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 12:56 pm:   

i've taken out all the seats and am working on plans with a carpenter now to install table, counter and benches. i would like to add two jumper seats, (flip down, attached to the side, like a navigators seat on an airplane for example) one on each side at the front of the bus, for employees. i'm painting the ceiling gloss white and plan on adding four lights in each corner to bounce up on the ceiling to add some ambient light for cloudy days or winter days. i would like to add "dry" heat. correct me if i'm wrong, but proprane heat can be moist, from what i understand. this is a "small" job, and perhaps does not fit in with the concept of conversion in this forum.
let me know if i'm out of line.
CoryDaneRTS

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Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 6:58 pm:   

PROPANE is a "Dry" heat if using a vented heater. The burnt fuel and gasses would vent out, the heat goes through the exchanger and warms the inside air and recirculates it.

PROPANE gets "WET" if you use NON VENTED heaters, which will disperse the vapour of the fuel into the coach.

Not all heating systems disperse humid gasses using the same fuels. If you plan to park in parking lots (boon dock), propane could be a very good alternative.

If you have the luxury of an outlet to plug into where you stay, electric could turn the trick.

And of course, there are those who are equally happy using Diesel fuel for heat.

Study the heating units well, they all have advantages and disadvantages. But they all have good results.

cd
James Maxwell (Jmaxwell)

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Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 7:07 pm:   

I apologize if my response implied that you were out of line here. That was not my intention. It's just that by the standards that we generally talk here you're plans are much less complicated than we usually address.

If you plan on being more or less stationary or always near a power pole connection, you're electrical requirement can be met with an appropriate power cord into a small sub-panel box that will hold 3-4 breakers and go from there with whatever type outlets and number that you require.

Electric heat is "dryer" unless u want to go to a forced air furnace of some type. The propane radiant type, whatever type that may be, tend to concentrate heat to the point that they will extract much more moisture from surrounding air and create more condensation. Keep in mind to put in adequate sized wire for electric space heaters.

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