BNO BBS - BNO's Bulletin Board System
TOPICS => THE BOARD => Topic started by: luvrbus on June 07, 2012, 08:09:00 PM
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Anybody beside me have a problem with the BCM board ?
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I don't have a problem with them but I think they have a problem with me lol.
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I was just on there with no problems
TOM
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LMAO Cody I was asking is the site down or what I haven't been able to log on maybe Mikie forgot he was supposed to pay GoDaddy
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Go daddy? I thought we were a ning now.
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My browser was blocking me it said there was a unsafe pop up running there what the hell that means I don't know lol I am not on Ning when that happens you won't see me
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Clifford, I'm banned for life from the site so I wouldn't know if it's working or not but I do understand freds thoughts on the economy being tanked and I'm glad bob's surgury went well, but hey, what do I know, I'm banned lol. I also feel that that camper on the truck is over priced at 165K but like I said, I'm banned for life so I really don't know lol. I prefer Danica in the Go Daddy ad's over mikie.
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This last week I have been getting warnings from my browser that their security certificate has expired.
Siberyd
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Cody I fell off the earth a while... Howd you get banned for life?if you don't mind...???
Have fun !
Eric
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I'm not entirely sure why it happened, I'm not sure if it was because when mike S sent me a rule packet and demanded I sign each page and return them to him, maybe it was the timing cause I was low on toilet paper at the time but I did return the pages for the most part. Or it might have been because of some information in regards to money that I found out, I'm sure it was something other than my sweet, shy and innocent disposition lol. I felt horrible and am permanently damaged and destroyed emotionally over the whole incident, luckily I have a good grasp of DOS, I guess I may be the only one ever required to sign a rule packet, but anyway it's amazing what a person can do with dos lol. Even Mike K couldn't override MIke S's verdict, oh wait a minute Mike S was removed at that time, secretly, I think it was an attempt to sabatoge my bid for sainthood.
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Haha nothing like bullshit politics Even on a busboard!!! I vaguely remember the they own whatever you put on there deal right?
Have fun !
Eric
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"You remain solely responsible for the content of your posted
messages. You retain copyright ownership of content you created and if you
included (with written permission) another entity’s copyrighted material, they
retain copyright ownership of their content. If such 3rd party
copyrighted content is included in your post, it shall be properly credited and
the copyright owner identified."
"While you retain your copyrights in such material, you grant
Bus Conversion Enterprises, Inc. and any successors an irrevocable,
non-exclusive, paid-up, perpetual, and worldwide right to copy, distribute,
display, perform, publish, translate, adapt, modify, and otherwise use such
material in any publication or medium (now known or not currently known) that
is fully owned and controlled by Bus Conversion Enterprises, Inc. or any
successors."
This a direct quote from the BCM rules, it was ruled contradictory to copywrite law, it even contradicts itself, the first paragraph states the author owns any copywrite material, the second paragraph says BCM own it if BCM owns any material published then it also owns any ad's submitted for advertising purposes also,, do you really think Ford would allow BCM to steal their work? I didn't.
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With all the boards available, one less doesn't affect me greatly, I really have no bad feelings against Mike S, however, I do feel badly for all the members that lost money, money just doesn't go poof, it goes into somebodies pocket, I would think the bigger question would be what happened to the money not what happened to me.
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I'm just glad I never actually signed up for the mag.. Bought a few issues here and there. Seems a lot of people have paid and they aren't producing :( .
Have fun !
Eric
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I have my doubts anyone at BCM is sitting on a pile of subscription money. A typical magazine gets less than half their revenue from subscribers. The rest comes from advertisers who only pay when their ad actually runs. BCM is/was probably like a lot of small hobby magazines and was probably losing money on every issue.
If anyone believes Mike K. he has claimed the magazine was losing money since well before the economy started to tank.
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Mike K was subsidizing the magazine for a long time, but I'm glad he finally got around to checking into what was actually happening with the whole operation and made some corrections, probably too late to help tho, too often we get so involved in the many aspects of our lives and with a fist full of small operations going in many different directions a person often puts trust in a project manager and then moves on to the next project. I'm like that myself, I've got so many irons in the fire I often can't give any particular one my full attention so you hope for the best and sometimes give the wrong manager too much authority, sometimes it takes a measure of controversy before you actually take a close look. I had that happen with one of our photo studios, we had a manager place the Studio1 copywrite on another photographers work and it took a little house cleaning and hard work to repair that mess, even tho the name is liscensed and franchised, ultimately we're still responsible for whatever happens.
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With regards to this issue at the risk of beating it to death, I deal with copyright issues on a daily basis and normally they fall within 2 catagories or affected by 2 time frames, jan 1st of 1978, the copyright act made the rules clearer and the Berne Convention of 1989 clarified it further, in a nutshell, copyright privileges belong to the author unless that author is an employee of a business and then the copyright MAY then be owned by the employer, there are no rights of transfer just because an article or posting may be printed in another publication, copyright privileges extend for 70 years beyond the death of the author,, a forum rule does not change the law.
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Folks, there are two sides to any story. I wanted to reply to this thread last night, but decided to hold off until my frustration level subsided. Didn't work, so here goes:
When Cody threatened to sue BCM in Federal court, his "membership"/posting rights were cancelled.
I have no idea why Cody keeps beating the copyright issue to death. During the change in ownership, I worked closely with Mike S and wrote several articles to try to help them keep the magazine alive. Mike K had let the quality slip and the three new principals applied new energy to the magazine. It was very clear that I owned the rights to my articles and there was no effort to keep me from using/publishing that material in a different publication/format. They did ask for an exclusive for a few months, and that seemed reasonable to me.
I assure you that Mike S, Phil, and Chad did not get rich off of their efforts. They worked very diligently to keep the magazine alive and the subscriptions fulfilled. However, they simply could not cover the huge publication costs. They reluctantly relinquished their "ownership' back to Mike K. As we all know, Mike K was also not able to make a go of it.
Jim
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And rightfully so IMHO
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I suspect that the copyright issue that Cody is addressing involves the posts on the board.
The position that BCM (now all of the boards including this one) took is that once a post was made, it could be changed for 24 hours (or some such time limit) and then it became "locked" from removal or modification.
About two years ago, a member of the BCM forum got upset and removed a large number of very helpful posts and a great deal of good information was lost. BCM changed the "rules"/agreement for membership to reflect the modification/delete time limit. They asked everyone to acknowledge the change and almost every member did so without any significant objection as I recall.
When Ian set up this new software, I think he had us "agree" to the same kind of rules. We do the same thing on the Eagles International site.
On the Internet, it is generally understood that what you write/post becomes "public".
Jim
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This one will get ugly lol
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Jim, I'm going to make one statement and only one statement, then this issue is closed, my material is copyrighted and I found 2 pictures that I had submitted with a post on the BCM board in the FMCA magazine, my attorney found that they had been sold to FMCA, at that time I attempted to remove some of my material from the boards possession using their own rules in regards to copyright infringement, anyone can read the rules in this regard on BCM's rules page, I submitted the written request by registered mail, detailed the material sought and tryed using their own procedure and failed so I my attorneys took the legal route, I don't care if anyone agree's with me or not, the law is still the law and piracy is still illegal, Jim, do you have any pamplets or material that I can sell and how would you feel about it. You guys don't have access to the emails or the phone calls involved and therefore have only second hand knowledge of what happened, and frankly I don't give a rats behind what you think of me, I've not changed in over 60 years and I won't at this point, if you don't like me then don't read what I write, I won't be sending out any written invitations to my funeral or to a picnic so don't start watching your mail for it, if my business is so interesting to you then I would suggest going to walmart and seeing if you can find a life in the clearance section. In a nutshell, I don't care what you think about this subject.
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Cody, you are correct that I do not know the details of your potential lawsuit, nor do I need to know them. A case of that magnitude should not be tried in the "court of public opinion".
The point I was trying to make is that your potential lawsuit would surely be justification for revocation of posting rights. It was not simply some kind of vendetta to remove you.
As you noted earlier, you have the rights to read the BCM forum. It is a public forum and anyone is welcome to view the activity (as is the case with this and most of the Eagle Forums - a couple of the Eagle Forums are restricted to members of the chapter).
I consider all of my published information from both my business career technical papers/articles and my bus ramblings to be in the public domain. Like any author, I ask that I be given credit for any use of that information.
Jim
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Sorry guys :( didnt mean to stir the pot up ..... Please excuse my ignorance here....
Eric
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Jim, the signed letter I got from FMCA simply stated that the photo's had been procured thru " a bus conversion" publication, whether they had been sold or given is irrelevant to the issue, only one bus publication had possession of those pictures, BCM takes the stance that any material submitted to them becomes available to them for any use they decide to use it for, whether compensated or not isn't the issue, what is at issue is unauthorized distibution of copyrighted material, at this point I have no lawsuit in the works, my request was that Mike S be removed, whether he was removed based on my request or not was not disclosed to me but he is gone. When people write a set of rules for involvement in a group, one would hope that the rules fall within the arena of legality, there is no provision in the law to redesign the law to fit within the scope of a forum rule, the law takes precedence in all cases. My request was simple, I asked in an email for a thread that I had authored to be removed, that request was denied, I was told there is a procedure to request removal so I read the rules again carefully and followed the procedure to the letter and again it was denied, at that point I was sent a packet of the rules in the mail for me to sign and forward back, when I refused to sign them based on the fact that nobody else had ever been required to sign a packet, my membership at that time was terminated, my attorney then found the redistributed material and reaquired the material from FMCA along with a letter of origin. As far as me "beating this issue to death" I was asked what happened and I responded, this issue had been dead for many months until the last couple of days.
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Cody, again there are always two sides to every story.
I suspect the thread that you asked to be removed is:
http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=18363.0 (http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=18363.0)
You started that thread and it was a good subject to discuss.
As you review that thread, you will see that the moderators of the BCM removed all of your posts (including your original question) per your request. They did not remove the thread. I suspect that they did not remove the thread, because it contained what they considered to be useful information.
The thread is quite disjointed because of the removal of your posts, but I think a new reader can get some information out of what is left.
Jim
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The posts wern't removed willingly. I did in fact author the post, not to ask a question or seek advice, I mearly stated what I had done and what I intended to do as the next step and I was subjected to what turned out to be 6 pages of "you can't do that" or "your detroit throws too much oil", by anyone that had ever walked past a bus and now became an expert, while some are knowledgable, for months I had sought the guidance from structural engineers, from eagle in brownsville,, from marathon, from the caldwell brothers who had originally built my bus and from several other sources, even from a few that are not bus people but rather build race frames for drag racing,, before we ordered the steel we made sure of what kind of steel to order and what we could expect from it, we had computer printouts of the stresses involved at numerous points so we could provide structural integrity and when we were ready to procede we had the work done by the best and most knowledgable people we could find, the end result was more than I had hoped for, I don't do anything without first doing my homework.
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Cody, sounds like you really did your homework and that the project turned out the way you planned.
To complete the documentation for the readers, would you post a couple of pictures so that we can better appreciate the finished product?
Thanks
BTW, for the rest of the readers, I was one of the folks in that thread that provided strong words of caution when considering hanging a bunch of weight off the front or back of a bus. As I said many times in that thread, I did not say you can't do it, just be aware of the issues.
My intent was not to try to second guess Cody, but to let the **general reader** know that this should not be undertaken without a lot of research and thought. Cody was successful as have been several others. However, folks need to know the issues that should be considered. I had a friend who wanted to hang a smart car off the back of his huge top-of-the-line motorhome. The thing was overloaded to begin with and hanging a car off the back was way over the top. Where do you draw the line?
Jim
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So, since we are clearing our throats, I was the one that Jim spoke of that deleted posts.... 650+? of them as a matter of fact.
Unless Jim was privy to internal communications, (I was a moderator at the time), he has no idea that I was told in no uncertain terms that my posts had no value. Therefore, to make those words true, I deleted them.
You should have seen the uproar that was raised over that! The Audacity of someone to actually delete something someone might want to read and learn from, even though we told the poster that his/her/their posts had no value.
Now on BCM you seldom see a moderator online and even when you do and check what they are viewing, it comes back as something like, (unable to view, you have no......). that means they are on the private board and not paying attention to what is going on. How often does Jack Conrad appear any more? How about Nick Bademame? Ken Franklin? (Moderator of the chat room), oh, and you can see how many times Mike Kadletz actually has signed into the board by his number of posts and his last time logged in.
My sin? I assumed that my fellow moderators would apply the rules equally to everyone. My bad.
They were all to lazy and had too many 'friends' that they had to assuage.
I still think that if they have no time to be moderators they should give up the title and nominate someone else.
I Hope it's Jim and Cody and Ace and Fast Fred!
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Dallas, yes, my mention of the deleted posts referred to your action.
What a terrible loss the community suffered when you pulled most of your posts. Once in a while when I do search, I see one of your posts and it makes me frustrated at our loss.
I do not have any insight as to what provoked your action, nor is it any of my business. All I know is that our community lost access to valuable information.
It was a dark period and I am glad that things have become more civil in recent years (with the exception of this thread :-[ and most of that is my fault for letting my emotions get the best of me).
Jim
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Thank you dallas for stepping in and stating your side. I really don't think any of the boards are more civil in any form, there is still a small minority with all the answers but none of the questions,, some state quite firmly that they are an expert of every sort at which I shake my head and wonder what constitutes an expert, to have a moderate working knowledge of a particular subject, does that make the person an expert in all aspects of the subject but more importantly does it allow those few individuals to talk down to the great majority of posters who just might have a clue about what they are doing. I've spent my entire life aquiring degree's of one sort or another and have signed up for another discipline for this fall, I have a curiousity that sometime will destroy me, but I won't post pictures or answer questions anymore because I won't subject myself to the aftermath, I have stopped working on peoples buses because I won't do an entire conversion for free like I'm supposed to do, my saw has stood idle for months now where it rarely sat for more than a day, I'm sorry, I guess I just get tired.
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Online interaction is hard. All of us can read a reply and insert a negative or positive tone depending on the mood we are in, or even other things that might sway our judgment of someones intent. When ever i read a post that i think rubs me wrong I read it again but as a Jerry Lewis impersonation. That way if someone was trying to make a douchey comment I don't take it that way and it doesn't weigh in on my mind and effect my day, week etc. This way it just comes off to me as they were trying to be funny but it wasn't.
I like this place and choose this place because it seemed to be more for "bus people" in a general sense. It didn't take me long to find out that I drive a kid of bus that some bus people just judge as a stereotype. What kind of bus do you have? Is a bad question for someone to ask me first... Because when I answer most assume I have a 5 gallon bucket with a toilet seat on it as a toilet, and no shower. People here have helped me greatly. I'm meeting my first bus nut in person next weekend. I'm like are you sure you want me to come over, you do know my bus is not a 200,000 RV and that it's a crazy hippie style bus. He said it didn't matter it was a bus! Judgement free bus people... I like those kinds of people. If people post to help and not hurt life is much better. And if you think someone is making a mistake for safety sake or any other reason reason, type it like you would say it to their face, because people are much more polite in person, than when setting behind an anonymous computer.
Oh and the toilet and shower thing is not really too far off... But only because our bus is more of the family and living room parts of an rv on wheels. It's a compfy and fun way to get from a to b
I have a 2000 mile professional photographer tour coming up at the end of the month. A group of pro photographers are traveling on the bus from city to city stopping each day at another cool studio for sharing, learning, teaching, and socializing. Indianapolis, millwakee, Waverly Iowa, Joplin Mo, Jackson MO.... And people here have helped us get the bus in tip top shape for us to be able to have this much fun!
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Scott, my grand father was a master cabinetmaker, my father was too, I pile sawdust, for 30 years or so I've done busconversions, from small projects to the entire bus and have done something on the buses of many here, the photography end also hits close to home, one of the irons I've had in the fire for about 30 years now is photography, we've done everything from weddings to dog shoots and have a few shops out there under the name Studio1, also music playing live until the late 80's or so and then DJing after that, primary income from a supervisiory job with the michigan prison system for 28 years, now retirement since november 26th 2000. Sadly with most of the boards if Henry Ford were still alive or Thomas Edison we'd still be on horseback riding down dark streets, I believe that with proper preparation and research you could put wings on a bus and fly it, nothing is impossible tho somethings might be difficult. I believe over the years that I've done a fair job piling sawdust but now I chase windmills and mainly do benefits for whatever thats worth for vet organizations mostly.
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Imagination and innovation always face others saying "it can't be done" so don't try because I told you so.
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Better chasing windmills than tilting at them, although, how fast do you need to go to chase one?
Cody, we are like minded in many things. Keep up the piling of the sawdust and I'll keep up making more for you to pile.
Scott, if you happened down this way I have a tank and a nice Sealand China toilet I would help you install in your bus. (read that as you install, I provide supervision and tools). All it would cost you is a case of cheap beer and a day of hot hard work!
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Scott, my grand father was a master cabinetmaker, my father was too, I pile sawdust, (snip)
Cody, that's a great legacy. When he was in his teens, my dad, born 1921, helped his father build three tobacco curing barns just near the house I grew up in. *Nobody* would have ever applied the word "master" to any of their work, although they did stand up through many hurricanes until the gummint killed tobacco growing.
Isn't there a matter of context here. If another busnut pulled into my place and said "oh, I just had a problem - not five miles down the road, one of my overhead cabinets came loose", I have them pull into the shop and I'd be happy to spend the weekend taking them apart, finding the problem, and helping get them rebuilt right. On the other hand, if somebody came and said "I'll drop my bus off and pick it up in three months, can you finish out the interior", it would be "sure, let's just write up a contract on the pay per hour and a deposit on materials".
Both would be fine, they'd just be different. Thank you for all the work you do for Vet organizations -- that's one of the best things a person can do. I'm hoping your health problems don't get in your way too much and your daughter's med school goes well.
BH NC USA
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The term 'Master' cabinetmaker was a term not given lightly back in the past, it required almost a generation of apprenticeship before a person could even work without supervision, some of the furniture in the goveners summer home on Mackinaw Island came from my grandfathers shop, particularily the dining room set and buffet and highboys, my grandmother traced sawdust piling in our family back to the 1500's in france to a gunsmith ancestor, I would never assume to take on such a high title, I pile sawdust, I spent one summer working at the fort in mackinac city wearing period clothing and building simple 18th century furniture for the fort and the displays there but it was very simple utilitarian style furniture, I find piling sawdust much more appealing to me cause I screw up on a regular basis lol. http://www.mackinacparks.com/colonial-michilimackinac/
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The term 'Master' cabinetmaker was a term not given lightly back in the past, it required almost a generation of apprenticeship before a person could even work without supervision, some of the furniture in the goveners summer home on Mackinaw Island came from my grandfathers shop, particularily the dining room set and buffet and highboys, my grandmother traced sawdust piling in our family back to the 1500's in france to a gunsmith ancestor, I would never assume to take on such a high title, I pile sawdust, I spent one summer working at the fort in mackinac city wearing period clothing and building simple 18th century furniture for the fort and the displays there but it was very simple utilitarian style furniture, I find piling sawdust much more appealing to me cause I screw up on a regular basis lol. http://www.mackinacparks.com/colonial-michilimackinac/
Nice woodwork -- you don't see much work like that anymore! Thanks for that.
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I whack really big nails into 2x4's, sometimes I even hit the nail, the fun is in the aiming and hoping.
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Is the BCM forum still there? I,too, got ripped off on the magazine.Too bad, I liked the centerfold and hoped to get there. My bus is almost done.
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Sure it is Ted last time I checked it was close to 3400 members, but I think that part is miss leading they never reset the counter when we all had to re resister because of the new " Dallas and Cody" law lol sorry guys I just had to do to that.
I would like know how many are really there my guess would be less than 2000 what would be your guess Dallas you were in the group at one time
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Wow, there is a 'dallas and cody' law? Was this our 15 seconds of fame and I missed it? lol Yep I just checked, it says 3396 members, now does that include me? oops sorry I forgot, I'm banned lol. ( I take this to seriously I think)
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Ah. . . the entertainment value of this thread begets an amusing chuckle.
Sort of like watching this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBqY6cJD3CE
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RJ, I guess my problem is I take the internet too seriously, this is my entire life, I own a bus but the bus owns me and if anyone says anything bad about my bus then I must kill them and hide the body as I'm sure my bus would do if anyone said anything bad about me, I also portray the persona that because I own a bus I'm wealthy beyond belief, thats why when I pull into a campground I wear my little captains hat and drink ripple out of lead crystal stemware and look down on the little people who own travel trailers, yep, it's a good life for sure lol, and I owe this all to my computer and my keyboard that allows me to be whatever I want to be, oh, did I mention that I'm also a republican because they are rich capitalists and have offshore accounts and have memberships in only the best fraternity organizations where I attained the highest rank of master something or other, actually tho I am sometimes a republican but mainly I vote for whoever I think will do the least amount of damage, and my offshore accounts are sitting on the end of a bobber waiting for a nice brook trout to wander by. Hey, libby was right, some of the best postings are done while sitting on the throne in the morning lol. Did I say campground? I meant RV resort, sorry.
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It's good to be King!
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Dallas, I signed up for an anthropology class for this fall, libby called it the height of optimism cause the course will take about 6 years and I'm in 'end stage' congestive heart failure but I just might surprise them, jamie said she isn't carrying the urn of my ashes across the stage to get me another sheepskin lol, personally I think it would be funny to get my picture taken with the degree and be in an urn at the time, they told me a lot of my past credits could be counted towards it, and besides this area has a history going back thousands of years to when libby was a child, she was a cradle robber you know.
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RJ, I guess my problem is I take the internet too seriously, this is my entire life, I own a bus but the bus owns me and if anyone says anything bad about my bus then I must kill them and hide the body as I'm sure my bus would do if anyone said anything bad about me, I also portray the persona that because I own a bus I'm wealthy beyond belief, thats why when I pull into a campground I wear my little captains hat and drink ripple out of lead crystal stemware and look down on the little people who own travel trailers, yep, it's a good life for sure lol, and I owe this all to my computer and my keyboard that allows me to be whatever I want to be, oh, did I mention that I'm also a republican because they are rich capitalists and have offshore accounts and have memberships in only the best fraternity organizations where I attained the highest rank of master something or other, actually tho I am sometimes a republican but mainly I vote for whoever I think will do the least amount of damage, and my offshore accounts are sitting on the end of a bobber waiting for a nice brook trout to wander by. Hey, libby was right, some of the best postings are done while sitting on the throne in the morning lol. Did I say campground? I meant RV resort, sorry.
I have to admit, your posts leave me laughing.......
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Lowtide, it seems we all have our perception of reality, some on the board genuinely have deep pockets but many don't, everyone likes to live like a rock star but many can't pay the bill so here comes the false persona, there are many on the board that just like buses and buy them and fix them up and enjoy them, a board like this attracts all kinds, some good, some bad, I find it entertaining to watch over a period of time who is real and who wants a person to think they are. In my case, I'm just a guy with a bus that I bought years ago, I don't have much but I did have a job that allowed me to almost live in a classroom, which I did, did I learn anything, I doubt it, but I did enjoy it, over the years I've met a lot of people from this board and others but I'm just a plain guy trying to enjoy the hobby, my sence of humor is as warped as I am, so it is what it is.
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Cody, I would be more than happy to stand in for you and recieve the degree. LOL
I spoted another revcon out here the other day. I am trying to take a couple of pic's for you.
See you and moma soon
Don
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Jamie pointed out that there is a good chance I might be able to 'urn' the degree lol. Revcon porn is a good thing.
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Cody I have always thought that you would visit your "resort" in Deming and I would get a chance to meet you.
Melbo
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Nice resort, sand, scorpions and rattlesnakes but the taxes are low lol, someday I'll probably take a wrong turn and end up there did I mention snakes?
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Once again my name has resurfaced in the BCM ranks, and once again speculation is rampant, so once again, did anyone else recieve a rules packet in the mail? An actual packet consisting of several pages of paper listing the rules and were you required to initial each page then sign and date the last page before sending them back to Mike S? If you didn't recieve a packet in the mail, then I would like the lie about it being the new requirement stopped.
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I never had anything against you Cody but i would have figured you would have gotten over/not cared about the ban. You sure do like to go on and on about it.
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For months it layed dead, I don't care about it but I don't care to be dragged thru the mud either. I'm not the one that keeps bringing it up, I could care less about the management over there, except for one guy, slowrider, he's a straight up good guy.
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Once again my name has resurfaced in the BCM ranks, and once again speculation is rampant, so once again, did anyone else recieve a rules packet in the mail? An actual packet consisting of several pages of paper listing the rules and were you required to initial each page then sign and date the last page before sending them back to Mike S? If you didn't recieve a packet in the mail, then I would like the lie about it being the new requirement stopped.
Somebody over at BCM asked what happened to you and several people responded. I don't see where anyone said there is a new requirement that paperwork be signed for everyone.
Everybody had to agree to the new rules at least electronically before they could continue as a registered user. I'm not aware of anyone else being asked to physically sign the new rules. For someone who can't post over at BCM you sure know what is going on over there.
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Cody, the BCM thread asked about you. Folks responded, including me, explaining why you were no longer on the board.
I did not get a written packet, since I quite quickly agreed to the new rules. Indeed, they are the same rules that exist on most forums. However, to be a member of that group (and this group) you need to acknowledge agreement to the rules. Seems pretty straight forward to me.
The comments on this and the BCM are based on public knowledge as posted in the various public threads.
The reason it came up in this thread is that you brought it up. It came up in the BCM board because someone asked about you and Libby. I fail to see any kind of conspiracy (my word) in either these threads.
If any statement I have made is not correct, please quote it and correct my error.
Jim
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No Jim you said enough when you stated that you did not get a written packet, only one person got one and it was clearly stated that signing and dating it was a requirement. I hope you feel as charitable when you find your pamplets or material being sold thru other magazines.
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Cody, I hate to keep this going, and as I said before, I have no knowledge of your situation with Mike S other than what was "public" on the board.
I can say that over the years I have written many articles for both Mike K and Mike S and have never had a situation where my "material" was sold or misrepresented as owned by BCM.
Perhaps that was because it was not of much value :-\ ::) ;)
Jim
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it's done
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Dan, just a bunch of people who love you wanted to know how you and yours are doing. Easy to say "swell" or other wise. I'll be honest, when you were quiet for a few months earlier this year, I asked how you were doing too. Don't make it more than it is - friends looking after friends. This board or that board - still mostly friends who care about each other.
Brian
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Cody, notice how I never ask how you are doing? I figure that if you bite the big one your going to leave me those cheap old wood working tools and I don't want to seem too anxious!
I didn't mention the Iggle because it will probably leave a rust puddle on that nice dirt you have up there!
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Dallas, your probably one of the very few that would know how to actually use them or even know what they are for. Just the tools for bedding flintlock gun barrels or a set of dovetail knives for making silverware boxes would probably puzzle most of the best knowledgeable people at Home Depot.
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Hiya Cody. I am still around too ;D. I just dropped in over here, to see what was causing all of the dust. What do I find, but you and your Iggle running in circles on a dust track :D. Just kidding. I have thought about you recently too, and figured you were still kickin. Glad to see you are.
I don't have a dog in the "paperwork" fight. However, I didn't have to sign any paperwork. I did enjoy reading through the whole thread. Your posts always crack me up.
Since we are on the topic....how is Libby doing these days?
John
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John, libby seems to think she can do anything she wants after she got away with that hansel and gretal thing but I was scared, the torches, the yelling townspeople, the pitchforks, I was terrified, she is doing good, we don't travel much anymore, just too costly with a kid in medical school and I'm heading back to school this fall, so lots of things going on. John, when you leave a doctors office and find that you have been promoted to "endstage congestive heart failure" a lot of things stop mattering and you decide for yourself whats important and right now doing things like a benefit for a little girl that got bit in the face by a dog so her mom can go to the Univercity Hospital in Ann Arbor and be by her side while she undergoes reconstructive surgury cause she is scared to be alone becomes very important, trying to help a local american legion post that is undergoing hard times is very important when they are the only color guard for the military funerals in this area, in other words, I could really care less whether others think I'm an a$$hole or not, I'll do what makes me feel good and what I think is important at the time and then I'll sleep good that night cause maybe I made somebody elses life a little bit nicer, buying 25 teddy bears at Walmart so they can ride around in the trunk of a police car to be handed to the scared little girl that is trapped in a wrecked car to distract her while the Jaws of Life cut her free makes me feel like my life mattered, so if this offends a few people well so what, this is life in my corner of the world right now.
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Cody
Why would anyone think bad of the things you do when you do stuff like you mention here?
" doing things like a benefit for a little girl that got bit in the face by a dog so her mom can go to the Univercity Hospital in Ann Arbor and be by her side while she undergoes reconstructive surgury cause she is scared to be alone becomes very important, trying to help a local american legion post that is undergoing hard times is very important when they are the only color guard for the military funerals in this area, in other words, I could really care less whether others think I'm an a$$hole or not, I'll do what makes me feel good and what I think is important at the time and then I'll sleep good that night cause maybe I made somebody elses life a little bit nicer, buying 25 teddy bears at Walmart so they can ride around in the trunk of a police car to be handed to the scared little girl that is trapped in a wrecked car to distract her while the Jaws of Life cut her free makes me feel like my life mattered, so if this offends a few people well so what, this is life in my corner of the world right now."
If more people did these type of things the world sure would be a better place. My wife and I volunteer with the local police dept for the last 12 years going out on calls when somebodies loved one dies to help them through it. No better feeling then knowing you helped someone in their worst time.
Bill
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Cody, why would anyone think badly of you doing benefits for anyone? Benefits are good. I took a week off work recently and did volunteer construction work for a Boy Scout camp.
I've been on the computer way more than I would be otherwise because I've sick with a sinus infection. I was supposed to go to several activities this weekend, but I have been stuck at home.
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Belfert, a person can get into far more trouble trying to do something good.
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Hence the old saying:
"A good deed never goes unpunished"
happy coaching!
buswarrior